No white liberal women need a way to feel special because white people have no actual culture and appropriate native and POC religion with wiccanism and then scumbag liberal white men go along with it because they are desperate. White Men just generally end up dumb christians. It’s 2 sides of the same coin. Men are less rational but that’s besides my point. White men and women are both irrational in their beliefs white women just generally appropriate culture moreso than any other group
I dislike the whole "white ppl have no culture" trope. Its just so ahistorical and unprincipled. You can be critical of a settler colonial state and its subsequent problematic customs, but its still a culture.
Yes there are blatant thefts of closed cultural traditions that should be left to he original peoples but no culture lives in a vacuum and they all feeds off others cause who wouldn't use a cool idea when they found it?
I wasnt speaking about Wiccanism in my comment. Technically speaking though pagan just means non-christian, but cultural appropriation is when a culture uses closed cultural traditions, or just uses traditional customs/clothing flippantly or mocks it in some way. This can be any culture not just BIPOC culture.
Thats just most predominately seen in white settler nations as a history of empire and settler nations allowed the majority ethnic population a broader base to draw from various cultures. Mix this with a sense of superiority and you have a perfect recipe for mass appropriation.
So Wiccan customs could be appropriated in theory, but most ppl who practice it are earnest so its not really appropriation and its not an exclusive tradition, so its not able to be stolen
Why is using and re-using, modifying and adapting others' "intellectual property" cool and good and should be done without any barriers but using and adapting others'cultural traits to create something new ought be prohibited? Culture is just a temporal and geographical expression of human creativity and adaptation to circumstances - no one owns any of it, no one can bar others from any of it!
Right, but I guess the picture gets a bit muddled when you have an oppressive/genocidal culture destroying and othering another culture and then turns around and uses their victims' practices/regalia as a costume. People of that latter group may want to hold on to a part of their identity that was being stamped out.
Also if there are people who have a custom or ritual that they think is special and want to keep something sacred to themselves, then maybe let them have it
No white liberal women need a way to feel special because white people have no actual culture and appropriate native and POC religion with wiccanism and then scumbag liberal white men go along with it because they are desperate. White Men just generally end up dumb christians. It’s 2 sides of the same coin. Men are less rational but that’s besides my point. White men and women are both irrational in their beliefs white women just generally appropriate culture moreso than any other group
callipers to diagnose your religion
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I’m non-binary but okay go off
I hate how much more circlejerky this place is vs the old sub..
they getting downvoted tho
It's the rare circlejerk Battle Royale
I dislike the whole "white ppl have no culture" trope. Its just so ahistorical and unprincipled. You can be critical of a settler colonial state and its subsequent problematic customs, but its still a culture.
Yes there are blatant thefts of closed cultural traditions that should be left to he original peoples but no culture lives in a vacuum and they all feeds off others cause who wouldn't use a cool idea when they found it?
But wiccanism comes from pagan traditions I thought? How is that appropriating from BIPOC?
I wasnt speaking about Wiccanism in my comment. Technically speaking though pagan just means non-christian, but cultural appropriation is when a culture uses closed cultural traditions, or just uses traditional customs/clothing flippantly or mocks it in some way. This can be any culture not just BIPOC culture.
Thats just most predominately seen in white settler nations as a history of empire and settler nations allowed the majority ethnic population a broader base to draw from various cultures. Mix this with a sense of superiority and you have a perfect recipe for mass appropriation.
So Wiccan customs could be appropriated in theory, but most ppl who practice it are earnest so its not really appropriation and its not an exclusive tradition, so its not able to be stolen
Why is using and re-using, modifying and adapting others' "intellectual property" cool and good and should be done without any barriers but using and adapting others'cultural traits to create something new ought be prohibited? Culture is just a temporal and geographical expression of human creativity and adaptation to circumstances - no one owns any of it, no one can bar others from any of it!
Right, but I guess the picture gets a bit muddled when you have an oppressive/genocidal culture destroying and othering another culture and then turns around and uses their victims' practices/regalia as a costume. People of that latter group may want to hold on to a part of their identity that was being stamped out.
Also if there are people who have a custom or ritual that they think is special and want to keep something sacred to themselves, then maybe let them have it
Thats always been my understanding, especially when people steal culture to profit from it in some way.
Ah gotcha. I wasnt sure if Rev was earnest or playing the part of a neoliberal haha
White chicks like astrology cause its marketed to them, thats not their fault lol.