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Dirtbag left apparently means being a piece of shit to comrades now apparently.
Oh noes, I'm 14 and can't handle being called an MSNBC shill. Pls ban Jimmy
He's literally a type. We had someone like him in our chapter that turned out to be a serial abuser. Not saying Jimmy is a rapist or anything, but those sorts of defenses fall flat.
My personal experience with DSA locals is that any behavior that the leadership disagrees with, regardless of member support, is "abuse" if you rock the boat and push on, rather than take the hint and drop it, so yeah, this tracks.
How many DSA locals have you had personal experience with?
Three directly.
I also know some people in others who report similar experiences.
About 3/4ths of the people I know who are currently burnt out are burnt out because of intraorg bullshit, not just from being willpower depleted.
One person got kicked out of theirs for admitting they listen to Cumtown.
Inb4 #NotAllLocals
Most of it is stuff I witnessed happen to other members.
I was however accused of breaking rule one for trying to hold the leadership to their own bylaws and stop being exclusionary to those not in the clique. They claimed to want to know why they weren't growing. I told them why. They weren't happy.
A month or so later, I called them out for making misleading statements, and was told that by saying that because I hurt the feelings of the one non white non cis member of the leadership, that my behavior was "abusive" and "not tolerable". I literally just said that, based on what we know now, that [verbatim statement from a month ago] was incredibly misleading. That's it. No cursing. No name calling. No voice raising even. Then I got a PM that they wanted to schedule an "informal meeting" at one of their houses to "clear out the bad air" and "get on the same page". When I showed up, it consisted of the leadership literally around me in a circle of chairs, hurling criticisms. Nothing to do with the recent allegations. Just a literal struggle session. After about five minutes I said this had nothing to do with their complaint and up and left. Literally got body checked on my way out the door.
Didn't get officially censured, though. I'm still a "member in good standing" and always was.
Before this happened, I initiated contact with someone from national about their exclusionary behavior because a)They did enough stuff like this before to establish a pattern, and b) their behavior to me and others not in the clique bordered on abusive.
That could have had something to do with why it was dropped, but I'll never know for sure.
Was still impossible to get anything done in it from then on, however.If yours isn't a radlib cult, or headed that way, though, I'm glad for you.
One person got kicked out of theirs for admitting they listen to Cumtown.
good tbh
I wonder how long until listening to Chapo is unironically shamed on here. A year? Two years? It already is and I've been oblivious to it?
Dsa sounds pretty lib and gate keeping from what you're describing
The fuck are these people talking about? You forcing the damn vote or what?
Can't even muster the strength to pretend to know Karate like I did back in the 3rd grade
Holy shit, it's great to see abuse rules abused over squabbles. Any decent org, would simply tell an arsehole like Dore to cool his jets, reflect a little and come back to the convo when he's ready. Don't just cast them out for being an ass.
Why would they say anything to him when he's getting more publicity for universal healthcare than they ever have and they supposedly share that goal?
It's not okay for someone to shout and scream at an organizing meeting. I don't give a fuck who you are.
Uh yeah what exactly is it that you think social democrats do around here? Let me try to remember the last public pressure campaign mounted by the DSA...uh I can't
More than these ineffectual dorks and their stupid orgs. Normal ppl don't give a fuck about the rules section of the DSA nerd handbook
We're sure as shit not getting anything done without some type of organization, and any functioning organization is going to have some rules. Siding with a ranting media personality over people at least attempting to gain political power is a laughable take.
Ranting by demanding a vote on a popular policy lol
Pathetic bar for the socialist caucus. Can't even demand votes on shit from politicians who agree with them
Whether they do this or not, we're not getting M4A for years. It's immaterial. Berating anyone over this is ridiculous.
Put a vote to it, primary people who vote against it. Pretty simple. If thats not even possible what is the purpose of AOC and why is she functionally different from Nancy Pelosi?
