The show is pretty good and I bought one of the shirts because I thought it was funny. I wore it to a phó restaurant and had a real weird time.

  • disco [any]
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    4 years ago

    This is giantess fetish propaganda, actually.

    iirc the show's creator has actually owned up to it.

    Which means this show is a pizzagate/qanon person's worst nightmare. A children's show created by a queer jewish woman who has admitted in interviews that she intended for the show to expose kids to her sexuality.

    Still love it btw, the giant woman song is a bop

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    • sailor_redstar [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      I mean in the end they

      spolier

      gave the diamonds the puyi treatment

      It'd be great to be able to do this sort of thing in real life, but it just isn't realistic.

      • FidelCashflow [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I kinda saw that as realistic. Especially in our world if we get anyone out of power they get a gold parachute so seeing reconciliations without catharsis is a good message to explore.

        • sailor_redstar [she/her]
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          4 years ago

          I have realized I wasn't making the point I wanted to make

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          What's unrealistic is that Steven and the crystal gems were able to remove the diamonds to power largely without violence and with a very small group. Yes, there was the epic cool battle scene in the finale, but crucially what causes White Diamond to abandon her world view is getting owned with facts and logic(tm) demonstrating her worldview to be irrevocably false. This resolution requires White Diamond to bow to the material reality around her rather than double down, can we realistically see our capitalist oppressors doing the same? And then, even if the diamonds gave up power willingly, those who had been privileged under that system would be unlikely to ALL do so as well (credit where credit is due, they explored this in Future). I guess the point I'm trying to make is that the show doesn't make a depiction of a realistic revolutionary struggle, which they seemed to be trying to do to some degree at least.

          As for giving the diamonds the puyi treatment, this actually has some material basis justification in the show. Specifically, they are needed to heal the corrupted gems, end up providing some useful services, and even start to repair all the gems they had murdered (slight cop out if you ask me).

    • 420clownpeen [they/them,any]
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      4 years ago

      It's pretty lib. Or rather, it became pretty lib by the end. There's a big difference between how Steven behaves when Jasper first shows up, and confrontations later in the series. Bismuth did nothing wrong.

      It was also paced horrendously, but the episodes were short enough that I only noticed it in hindsight. There may have been studio shit going behind the scenes with that idk.

      All that said, there's still a lot to love, especially in the soundtrack.

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    • FidelCashflow [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I hadn't known about it so I was just wearing it randomly. We went to a nice vegan vietnamese restaurant. Everyone ordered nicely and then when thr server looked at me he tensed up and got quiet. Then one by one the staff would come around silently look at me then walk away. There was a bunch of hushed discussion in vietnamese as they stole glamces at me. Then later all the staff came out and stood around me and asked me my thoughts on Vietnam. It was real awkward and quiet as they explained to me what the flag was and I showed them it was a childrens cartoon. My food came in burned and I did not complain.

      At the time I didn't really know the significance of any of it. It was in a vietnamese neighborhood so I think I might have gotten kicked out if I wasn't written off as a dumb white guy.

      In this neighborhood a business has a big mural that says vietnamese comunism and shows a vietnamese guy in uniform executing someone. I am thinking the emotions are still strong there

  • BrokenPolecat [any]
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    4 years ago

    The way the diamonds were resolved and the resolution to the movie were both eh to me, but a lot of the early and mid to late mid seasons were solid

  • Poison_Ivy [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    My only critique is how short of a time we got White Diamond as a villain.

    And also no Diamond origin story

    • captcha [any]
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      4 years ago

      I'm sorry the only villians in the show were, Jasper, Marty, and Kevin. White diamond was a "big bad" but basically not a villain.

          • QuipeConTe [she/her,he/him]
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            4 years ago

            You can't take her to a restaurant because she'll call the waitress Gem "that off-colored girl"

            • Poison_Ivy [comrade/them]
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              4 years ago

              I have a theory that Pink Diamond was supposed to be a larger-sized Red Diamond and is in fact an overcooked off-color Diamond

      • Poison_Ivy [comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        White diamond was a “big bad” but basically not a villain.

        She was the architect of the entire space fascism system and is the direct reason why hundreds of planets were sterilized because of her pursuit towards "perfection" while emotionally and psychologically abusing her fellow diamonds.

        • captcha [any]
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          4 years ago

          Except she could be all those things and still be talked out of it all with the power of friendship and love and totally forgiven.

      • FidelCashflow [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I never saw Jasper as a Villan. Just a old soldier with emotional disturbances that can't reintegrate back into society well. Having worked with several people like that it was intresting to see.

        • captcha [any]
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          4 years ago

          She was a main antagonist that never got rehabilitated although I think she deserved it more than any of the diamonds.

          Also there was some fucked up subtext about how jasper was born perfect in poor conditions and amethyst was born defective in perfect conditions.

  • kristina [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    steven is a viet cong soldier cmv , he legit has vietnams flag on him

    • FidelCashflow [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      He does fight in an insurgency against a brutal empire that uses weapons that destroy the environment...

  • captcha [any]
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    4 years ago

    Someone do a Marxist analysis of S03E12. I posted it with a link but I think it got modded.

    Synopsis

    Steven buys fried motzarella sticks from the local fry shop, accidentally violating decades old treaty (that looks like the US Constitution) with the local Pizza shop. Both shops start selling competing products and getting more and more aggressive towards their customers and destroying the boardwalk in the process. Steven resolves the conflict by inventing superior fry and pizza products, forcing both owners back into their original treaties on threat of putting them both out of business.