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  • BillyMays [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Whelp guess it’s time to get rid of all of Greek life on universities.

    • Pezevenk [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      get rid of all of Greek life

      Damn I know we kinda suck sometimes but inciting genocide against Greek people was really uncalled for.

    • 4_AOC_DMT [any]
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      4 years ago

      tbh it's been time for a while

      There was a conversation on a local university subreddit I saw a few days ago about how hazing just keeps happening, no matter how many rules and consequences are in place.

      It was suggested that perhaps this means hazing is a structural problem, and that the social hierarchies enforced by the greek life system might have something to do with it. That sentiment was not taken very well (if it was even understood).

      I get that it doesn't help that most people's interaction with university in america lasts 4 years when they do it and then 4 years if their kid does it, and that this obfuscates the cycle of Fraternity does shit->fraternity disbanded/kicked off campus-> new fraternity appears or after probation, the original fraternity returns to the house that the corporation that runs the fraternity still fucking owns ->hazing repeats. I also understand that it's a lot easier to see this sort of thing from my perspective of having been at the same university for long enough to have watched this cycle for a full period and a half with a local fraternity.

      But still, it feels like liberals are allergic to takes that critique social systems and not individuals. Why is that?

    • Lil_Revolitionary [she/her,they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Honestly, this is gonna be a big blow to greek life. Apparently my cousin's sorority got disbanded for throwing too many parties during covid. They could reapply at some later point but from what i hear they're not gonna earn it cuz people in the sorority house are still doing stupid shit

      • EthicalHumanMeat [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Their alums donate way too much money for these college administrations to suddenly start caring about human life.

  • PlantsRcoolToo [any]
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    4 years ago

    There was a big narrative, especially around the holidays, trying to hang college kids with the blame for spreading covid. The news wouldn't shut up about kids bringing covid home to their families. It made me irate because what did they want these kids to do? They were doing their best, they had to go back to school. They couldn't take a year off, they're massively in debt that they need to start paying off asap by graduating and getting a job.

    So I am hesitant to entertain criticism of college kids because it has been being used to shift blame on them when they weren't given any other option. A convenient deflection for all the businesses that are actually doing the spread.

    On the other hand there is a frat house a few houses up the street from me and they never stopped having giant parties, no mask ofc. Oh and they blast the shittiest country rap music I have ever heard... So yeah idk how to feel

    • Puffin [any, they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Critique of general college kids about this is usually bad, but critique of frats/sororities is good because they suck.

    • Pezevenk [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Yes fuck this happened in many places, young people in general were targeted because it's an easy scapegoat and boomers will lap it up. Here there was a bunch of shit measures like banning selling alcohol after dusk because evil young people are buying alcohol and going to parks and getting drunk and they are responsible for covid, or something. Meanwhile all shops, restaurants and schools were open and people were using public transit en masse to go to their jobs lmao

      • PlantsRcoolToo [any]
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        4 years ago

        This exactly. Boomers pack the bob evans every night but it's definitely those darn college kids to blame.

    • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      i feel this so hard

      it's really hard to keep up sympathy for folk knowingly endangering themselves and others but we gotta try

      • PlantsRcoolToo [any]
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        4 years ago

        I struggle with this so much. All the way up to being happy to hear people I know weren't following guidelines get covid. I don't want it to hurt them tho! I just really enjoy seeing someone actually face consequences for their faults. I feel really bad about it tho...

        • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
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          4 years ago

          asterisk for people in charge of shit: I am 100% glad at every member of government not fighting tooth-and-nail for us to get it and die. fucking reap your sowing

      • gobble_ghoul [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        radio country is for sure, but there are still good country songs out there. there was a pretty good citations needed episode about how country was hijacked by the right to push propaganda

  • 7DeadlyFetishes [he/him,comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    I sorta like how Sorority girls at the beginning of the pandemic were like, "mask up! :penguin-love: can't wait to be six feet closer to my bitches! :ace-heart:" and probably around the time of New Years they all gave up on that promise and are back in clubs, restaurants, and house parties, etc.

    What's even funnier is that Frat dudes just didn't give a fuck and routinely frats were fined to the high heavens for continuing to not give a shit about social distancing and parties and such.

    The only reason I'm bringing this up is to destroy the notion that young people are some secretly "based" generation of people are going to change politics drastically, when in reality their just as guilty as any other previous generation having a large class of petty bougie folk who simply do not give a shit about politics while also somehow having the only real control over the politics of America.

    -7DeadlyFetishes

  • KantNeverCould [any]
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    4 years ago

    Clearly you don't go to an SEC school, ya lib. Greek Life has been very COVID-safe this past semester, and really flexing those community service muscles to help everyone in need.

    • Lush [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I am nothing more than a lowly coastal elite :deeper-sadness:

    • Drowned_Wednesday [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Good point, my university has several frats/sororities attached to the marching band which do a lot of great service stuff for the department and local music groups. They also function as effective mutual aid groups when it comes to academic or music stuff, and would be a really great structure to emulate in socialist groups/communities. Problematic frats are allowed to continue, especially at more expensive universities, because they can connect students to influential alumni/opportunities, making them more "successful", and able to donate enormous sums of money to the university.