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  • CrispyFern [fae/faer, any]
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    4 years ago

    The left/right distinction is meant to determine if someone is pro- or anti-Capitalism. Saying "I'm as left as you an get without being a socialist" is another way of saying "I'm a right winger"

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      "I respect human life as much as you can get without becoming a non-murderer."

    • NoGodsNoMasters [they/them, she/her]
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      4 years ago

      The left/right distinction isn't meant to determine anything. It's completely meaningless. Someone who describes themselves as, or is described as, a leftist could be anything from a neoliberal to a communist. If you want to say anticapitalist, just say anticapitalist.

      • MonarchLabsOne [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Well, that's certiantly how Americans use those terms, but when you enter left spaces, even American ones, we use the academic definitions of the terms. Anti-capitalist could be literally anything and I don't want to associate with monarchists and fascists.

        • NoGodsNoMasters [they/them, she/her]
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          4 years ago

          The academic definition of what is a wholly unacademic term? This is hardly something that confines itself to the US, either. If anticapitalist isn't specific enough for you, then I have no idea why you want to use 'the left' instead of something more specific.

          • MonarchLabsOne [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            The left describes socialists and sometimes progressive liberals.

            Again, anti-capitalist can mean being a monarchist and a fascists and both socialists and progressives are against associating with those.

  • vorenza [any]
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    4 years ago

    Chomsky quote about lively debate in a limited spectrum etc.

  • Janked [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    From a reddit thread where I dared to criticize Dolly Parton for her gross 5-9 Superbowl ad:

    I totally see what you are saying. BUT, Dolly has done a lot of great things and promotes mostly good ideals.

    The 5-9 ad was quite gross. But one could totally argue that it was stemming from her experience in the music field as a woman, where she had to work more than her colleagues. Totally not applicable to the majority of people, but that’s one look on it.

    I don’t think she deserves to be cancelled at all. One can be criticized without being cancelled, and this “either/or” thinking is just so terrible.

    Also, if you consider this sub or the mcelroys “performative liberalism” then you certainly don’t know what liberalism is. I would argue that mcelroys are progressive or social liberals.

    Just because you identify as a leftist or whatnot, doesn’t mean everyone to the right of you is a liberal. I am a leftist, progressive, social democrat, whatever you want to describe it as. It doesn’t mean I go around picking fights, calling everyone else names trying to sound smart, and acting holier than thou.

    Yeah, The McElroy brothers are the fucking vanguard of the left.

    Words don't mean anything. The "stop teaching libs words" meme is true.

    • Woly [any]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah, The McElroy brothers are the fucking vanguard of the left.

      Aren't the McElroy brothers the literal definition of identity politics? And I don't mean that in the disparaging way, I mean that they are apolitical except on issues of identity. They're not justifying drone strikes or anything, they just don't talk about that kind of stuff. Which is their perogative, but it obviously doesn't make them leftists.

      • Janked [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        There's some other performative anti-capitalism sprinkled in there, and they explicitly told people to vote for Hillary and Joe Biden, but otherwise yes.

    • Darthsenio_Mall [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      The left/right distinction is meant to determine if someone is pro- or anti-Capitalism. Saying “I’m as left as you an get without being a socialist” is another way of saying “I’m a right winger”

      see @CrispyFern's post below

      The left/right distinction is meant to determine if someone is pro- or anti-Capitalism. Saying “I’m as left as you an get without being a socialist” is another way of saying “I’m a right winger”

    • MarxistHedonism [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      Idk what “performative liberalism” is.

      Like trust me I believe that ur a lib. Is it like when someone pretends to be Neera Tanden as a bit?

    • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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      4 years ago

      I am a leftist, progressive, social democrat, whatever you want to describe it as. It doesn’t mean I go around picking fights, calling everyone else names trying to sound smart, and acting holier than thou.

      last written words of an SPD official, criticizing a KPD demonstration in Berlin (1934)

      • Janked [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Their fanbase is horrendous and incredibly embarrassing.

        They're peak parasocial and interpret any and all criticism of their good good boys as a personal attack on them. This is the most apparent with the current arc of The Adventure Zone, which is so demonstrably bad, but you can't talk about it.

        Thankfully a circlejerk subreddit got super popular in response where people do talk about how bad it is, but yeeeeeesh.

  • MaxOS [he/him, any]
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    4 years ago

    “I’m as far left as you can get within the right wing”

  • snackage [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Let me get this straight. If I hate drones I ipso facto hate the global poor?

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      4 years ago

      She's asking questions. Just... Ben Shapiro style shithead fascist-apologist questions.

  • EATFOOD [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    yes the US military dumps trillions on feel-good missions because they just love Syrians that much. ignore our history of backing "moderate" terrorists and later bombing them, no racketeering at play here.

  • happybadger [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I had to check and they did in fact retweet Oreo saying trans people exist.

  • mittens [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    she has the quote from the bill wurtz video where the US is literally being imperialist against Japan as a bio lol

  • redthebaron [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    "i am a hillary stan" "WHY DO YOU HATE THE GLOBAL POOR" i am awestruck, absollutelly amazed by the brain in display

  • opposide [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    All of these stans but still wants to drone every country ending in -stan into dust

  • SerLava [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    "I stan trans rights, but if you already got crushed economically for being trans, you need to stay deprived and miserable, there's nothing we can do"