- cross-posted to:
- urbanism
- cross-posted to:
- urbanism
Features:
-no automation
-4400 people an hour (claimed)
-no disability access
-YOU NEED AN APP TO EVEN USE IT
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An embarrassing monument to the American consumer, atomized in a fish tube. It is so impractical that a person would need to be deeply indoctrinated in capitalist realist thought not to understand it. and yet people go for this shit. This is the pablum they give us, and call it progress.
You could get a train designed for toddlers to ride around an amusement park and it would be a better solution. Just so much PURE IDEOLOGY in this lol.
yeah, the typical airport people-mover blows this out of the water. completely automated, accessible, and with a higher throughput.
Airport people movers are completely unironically the best transit in the United States. Super frequent, free, and automated, with platform screen doors.
It is quite practical as long as very few people use it. That, of course, defeats the entire stated purpose of it being a mass transit system. IMO, this will get more and more expensive and will only be available to the rich, significantly decreasing the number of customers, making it more practical.
Oh my god I love it. This horrid thing has made my night. It's a parody of itself; it's like something out of Fallout. Best part is the reporter tripping over herself to tell us how this glorified parking garage is actually fucking Disney World. I would be furious if I could stop laughing. I legitmately haven't laughed this hard in years. Life is wild at the end of empire.
Fallout has better public transport, no joke. Hell, most of the cities have some sort of monorail going through them.
It even has this beautiful piece of engineering, the Monorail Elevator in Appalachia. Granted it was built to ferry people between the mines with horrid working conditions, or the military tech facility, to the newly built "City of the Future" of Watoga which was built on what was a National Park but still... at least the infrastructure is there.
It's also based on the Falkirk Wheel and I just wanted to show off the Falkirk Wheel.
Wot if ur subway was slower, had to have hundreds of times more drivers per person than a normal subway, and also had weird strobing lights that'll make anyone who's at all photosensitive miserably ill at the very least?
Which is laughable, a subway train can carry like 1000 people and they can run every few minutes, even if they were delivering on 4400 an hour it’s pathetic
Just for the others:
Capacity: The capacity of subway ranges between 25,000 and 40,000 passengers per hour (in the peak hour, per peak direction). Overlap: Subways overlap with Express Rail at high speeds, high capacity and wide station spacing.
Assuming 5 people per car that's one car every 4 seconds. You're not going to be able to stuff 5 people into a car within 4 seconds.
That pace of boarding is acchievable with the parallel parking of many cars, but you still need a car through one of those tunels every 8 seconds (cuz they probably count 4400 total people going and coming)
This is the endgame of America’s hyper aggressive individuality. De-inventing trains to stay away from the poors, to save 45 minutes of walking time.
This is a one mile system, you could walk it in less than 15 minutes
Compared to the subway creation costs in NYC it is cheap, though lets compare:
- stuff owned by the convention center, comparably few legacy costs, no people living there, no running construction
So it is clear NYC is more expensive and they cheaper, comparing newly built subways in China per km in expansion areas (so some without previous housing construction) the cost can be as low as 20$ million per km (in existing cities it is more like 85$ million+ per km).
So they were cheaper than a subway which could transport more than 10 times as many people. However they were more expensive than well constructed subways.
Even more: If they would use underground shuttle services which have capacities above 4400 people per hour, or Trams underground you would look at slightly lower costs even and have more suitable capacities.
Even better fucking passenger conveyor belts like found at airports have 36k people per hour capacity (and saves per mile traveled 10 minutes compared to unrestricted slow walking). So you could've created (not sure about the safety aspect) an underground tunnel where the ground moves you and you would for 2miles travel range take around 10 minutes, which for exhibitions seems to be totally fine.
I like how this stupidity makes a 2 mile underground airport conveyor belt look reasonable by comparison
Yeah, this is grade school level shit (the one for young people, not the one for PhDs!)
LO - FUCKING- L
Airports have basic shuttles that do more and don't charge you 20 dollars for a 2-mile ride.
I just wish the myth of wealth=brain would die already.
The bad news is that a lot of resources have been put to waste making this abomination.
The good news is that maybe we can reclaim the tunnels with some kind of tram.
it just goes to the other side of the convention center??? it took too long to walk across so instead of moving walkways or a tram system they build underground tunnels with 2 person cars? someone got a massive kickback.
YOU NEED AN APP TO EVEN USE IT
:a-guy: :anprim-pat: :monke-beepboop: :monke-rage: :monke-return:
But why wtf is wrong with a card or ticket system. Making everything horrendously overcomplicated, just techbro shit.
Just watched the video, it's literally just underground uber for rich people. Costs 53 million USD to build, just to transport you across a convention center. Burn it all down folks.
Star Trek did that? He’s canonically a revered person in the trek universe?
:doomer:
Star Trek hasn't been good since DS9. They left behind Roddenberry, basically, and took out basically everything that made it unique.
This is like if there were a bet to make the worst "public" transport system possible. Without Elon's cult of personality, I wonder if people would be laughing it off. It's passenger cars on a fixed route through a tunnel, with a driver, and yet you need their app to hail it, like some kind of simulacra of Uber/Lyft.
I note they neglect to mention how much a ride on this bad boy is gonna set you back, versus a fucking subway ticket :soviet-hmm:
So it is just a dumb, needlessly complicated car tunnel for rich people?
Just give us trains instead.
