Aside from this being complete fantasy, do these freaks know that they're proving Putin is right for not trusting the west when they openly talk about carving up Russia like this? I assume not since they're unironically drawing 21st century versions of Generalplan Ost. eu-cool

Also, this map has some very bizzare internal borders

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  • fox [comrade/them]
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    8 months ago

    Here's how we bring Russia to heel:

    Step 1: Add Iceland to the EU

    • Egon [they/them]
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      8 months ago

      It will be used as a launching pad to invade the us. Once the us is European, Russia will be invaded thru Alaska. Putin will never see it coming

    • anaesidemus [he/him]
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      8 months ago

      only socdems and the rightists who are currently out of government have any desire to join the EU in Iceland.

      it's already in the EEA, which is fine for most people

  • emizeko [they/them]
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    8 months ago

    How a geopolitical Europe would

    a geopolitical Europe

    words don't have to mean anything, you can just stick them together in a random order

  • star_wraith [he/him]
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    8 months ago

    One the main justifications for supporting Ukraine from libs is “Putin is imperialist and must be stopped or he will try and take over Europe.”

    Putin has been in power for I think a bit over 25 years? In that time, I think the only wars Russia has been involved in were in Chechnya and Dagestan? Maybe Georgia? No offense to those places, but there are plenty of counties in the US that are larger than those places. Not to mention the geopolitics of those situations surely don’t dictate they are simply wars of imperialist aggression. The war in Ukraine is by far the largest operation Russia has undertaken with Putin at the helm. And by all indications Russia is only interested in the Russian speaking parts of eastern Ukraine - Ukraine could probably have peace right now if they would be willing to write off those provinces they’ve de facto lost already.

    But other than that, how has Russia been “imperialist”? Never even considered invading other bordering countries like Kazakstan or Mongolia. It strains credulity to think Russia would attack a NATO country. Not only are there no real avenues for imperialist aggression, Putin has had 25 years to be imperialist and hasn’t done it yet.

    Meanwhile westerners like this person just can’t wait to finish the job of carving up Russia that they started in 1991.

    • KarlBarqs [he/him, they/them]
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      8 months ago

      Russia is imperialist because it has close relations and ties to other nations like Belarus

      The more nations you're friends with the more imperialister you are

    • Donald_Drumpfler [comrade/them]
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      8 months ago

      Putin has been in power for I think a bit over 25 years? In that time, I think the only wars Russia has been involved in were in Chechnya and Dagestan? Maybe Georgia?

      Oh Mr. Simpleton over here, you've got it all wrong. The evil Putler has committed atrocities in Afghanistan, Syria, Libya (hey who ruined that place again? Can't remember...), generally speaking all over Africa, and even helped elect DONAL DRUMPF in 2016.

      Care a little more about or democracy and freedom now, huh?

      Just make sure to vote and President Biden will send another 250 billbjon dollarios to Kyiev.

      As soon as Russia is completely defeated, we'll get universal healthcare, at least while the dems stay in power. Got it???

  • CarbonScored [any]
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    8 months ago

    Step 1. Build largely pointless bridges

    Step 2. Coup Belarus

    Step 3. Magically have more power

    Step 4. Start WW3 with Russia, world ravaged by nukes

    Ah yes, all problems now solved

    • 7bicycles [he/him]
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      8 months ago

      Step 4. Start WW3 with Russia, world ravaged by nukes

      I've had people tell me they don't believe Russias nukes work so that's fine actually, nothing bad will happen

      • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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        8 months ago

        repeatedly explaining that you can't make nuclear safety decisions based on wishy thinking and vibes

      • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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        8 months ago

        this means that the nukes we drop have no impact on the world. Also airplanes an submarines don't exist. and normal missiles and bombs are not bad.

    • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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      8 months ago

      I like step one, we should do this more. build the bridge from Vatican city to Rome, make a big overground bridge from Chicago to San-Fransisco. put a bridge between bridges in New York.

  • Beaver [he/him]
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    8 months ago

    Stalin's paranoia about Western Europe's designs on Russia continue to be vindicated.

    • kot [they/them]
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      8 months ago

      The Soviet Union was invaded by every major European power in the aftermath of the revolution and again a few years later by Nazi Germany, it was never paranoia.

        • Vncredleader [he/him]
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          8 months ago

          Imperial Japan is honestly the only one that makes sense from a non-ideological POV

          • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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            8 months ago

            It's a good one to throw in because "remember when the US allies with Imperial Japan to crush an inddependence movement and restore a monarch to the throne" is the kind of thing that sounds made up and that people will argue with you over, and then you rugpull them and from that point on, their reflexive, defensive doubt about the evils of their empire will always have a little crack in it. "What? Putting nazis in power all over Europe? Strategy of tension, falsa flag terror attacks? That sounds crazy! But then again, Siberia..."

  • Teekeeus [comrade/them]
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    edit-2
    8 months ago

    federalization

    imagine thinking the united states would allow for the formation of a rival power like that. Americans would bomb brussels to stop that from happening, if necessary.

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      8 months ago

      I think the Yanks would be slightly more subtle about it. Vicky Nuland would suddenly visit Catalonia and other obscure breakaway hotspots to "support democracy".

  • oregoncom [he/him]
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    8 months ago

    Looked her up and she's a... dancer???? Never seen this level of brainworms in someone who wasn't a professional twitter user.

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      8 months ago

      I've seen eurolibs flip the antiziganism switch and go from Gandhi to literally Hitler in like 5 seconds. Nothing surprises me about euro brainworms anymore.

  • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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    8 months ago

    We should unironically do more EU balkanization maps. Germany goes back to the tollbooth castle phase of the HRE. Half of France becomes Vichy France. Spain goes to Manchukuo.

        • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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          8 months ago

          Don't worry, with millions of Germans inside our borders we would never had time to notice anything outside. Now, as for me living in Poland, i DEFINITELY don't like the idea of big Poland.

      • commiewithoutorgans [he/him, comrade/them]
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        8 months ago

        Wait what kinda map is this? Why is there English spellings mixed with Dutch, a spelling of Belgium I've never seen (with ë in dutch), and then Polska Czeskà and slovenská?

  • Łumało [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml
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    edit-2
    8 months ago

    Ok but who gets Kaliningrad? No matter what someone is going to get mad and there will be infighting. And who expands into Russia and where? Will a new liberal Russia be created in it's place? Or will it be suppressed? There would be more infighting among nations. And how will Belarus get treated? Will it be partitioned too? What about rampant rusophobia? Will Belarusian and Russian languages be suppressed?

    Eh I'm asking genocidal libs to think more than they are able to. That just want to watch people die is all. They love war crimes as long as a cracker does them...

  • Egon [they/them]
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    edit-2
    8 months ago

    Integrated Iceland? It's already in the EU sphere! Wtf lmao

  • grandepequeno [he/him]
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    8 months ago

    What european's think is soft power EU power projection (culture and shit) is actually american soft power, what the EU has is literally hard power over its members