Its not that this isn't true, its the scale of the problem, and the silence when its other Muslims, in Palestine or Myanmar, etc.

  • science_pope [any]
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    4 years ago

    Its not that this isn’t true

    I'll bite. It's also that this isn't true. The source on this is literally "some guy in Turkey said it to a US-funded propaganda outlet."

    "It’s an order that’s been given from above, it’s an order that’s been printed and distributed in official documents."

    Yeah? Show us the documents. It's utter horseshit.

    There may be some merit in debating the morality of China's population control policies, but this "tHeYrE kiLLiNg bABies!" is just pig slop for Evangelical Americans.

    • LeninsRage [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Brain-dead libs who enthusiastically support this imperialist shit can't see that they enabling a lunatic evangelical fundamentalist to equste abortion with genocide. That totally won't have domestic repercussions.

      • science_pope [any]
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        4 years ago

        Brain-dead libs

        "But I repeat myself."

        I can say that because I definitely used to be and probably remain a brain-dead lib.

  • Slaanesh [he/him, comrade/them]
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    The comments are actually decently populated with folks calling out Radio Free Asia and Adrian Zenz. They are all ofcouse being called left-tards (I guess the centrists and righties haven't gotten a hold of the new hot terms yet), but it feels like a small win.

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    4 years ago

    Hospitals in Xinjiang aborted late-stage pregnancies and killed newborns as part of China's mission to erase Uighur culture, a former doctor from the region has told Radio Free Asia.

    the first paragraph wow. on one hand, its amazing that the cia hasn't made more propaganda outlets, that don't have the same baggage. on the otherhand the way theyre so obvious and it still works sucks

    • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      aborted late-stage pregnancies and killed newborns

      I'm sure it's just a coincidence that this is what US chuds are currently accusing "the left" of wanting to do.

      How very convenient.

    • emizeko [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      would you mind putting a '>' in front of that first line to show you're quoting

      EDIT: cheers thank you

        • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          That paper is like the Daily Mail on steroids. It's right-wing tabloid garbage started by the founder of Samsung. I was looking at the "family tree" section of his wiki and it's just Korean bourgeoisie laid bare.

          • angmoh [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            Didn't they release that new eating dogs story that came out yesterday as well?

            • chmos [any]
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              4 years ago

              That was the New York post

                • chmos [any]
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                  4 years ago

                  But the one they were asking about, about the dogs being rounded up and used for food was New York post

                  • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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                    4 years ago

                    The kooky leader renewed the call to round up the household pets again in July, a source told the South Korean newspaper Chosen Ilbo.

                    • NY Post

                    That newspaper is the parent company of JoongAng. This is like the South Korean Murdoch empire.

                    • chmos [any]
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                      4 years ago

                      Wow, it goes deeper than I thought

                      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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                        4 years ago

                        There is no real reporting in the DPRK in the west really. All the major stories are just straight up mustache twirling capitalist propaganda from far-right media mogols in South Korea.

                        Media moguls that are closely tied to companies like Samsung and LG.

            • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              They release like all of these insane propaganda stories. With a small exception for a Chinese satirical paper that makes fun of them (but is then taken seriously when translated).

      • CoralMarks [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I never heard of this so I obviously had to google it, this shit is pretty fucked up.

        But at least there were some issues with this method:

        Things did not always work out according to plan at such executions; at a mass execution at Firozpur in 1857, there was an order that blank cartridge should be used, but some guns were loaded with grapeshot instead. Several of the spectators facing the cannons were hit by the grapeshot and some had to have limbs amputated as a result. In addition, some of the soldiers had not been withdrawn properly and sustained injuries from being hit by whizzing pieces of flesh and bone.
        wiki

        Eat shit I'd say.

        • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          huh, i always thought that was invented by the british raj, but apparently it was the Mughals?

          • CoralMarks [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Well, they say they used it in the 16th century, but they note the Portuguese using it as early as 1509 as well.
            So it might be up for debate.

  • Terkrockerfeller [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Completely off topic but is anyone else really annoyed by those long form copypasta reddit comments that always get a ton of awards? List of genocide signs, list of suicide hotline numbers whenever a famous person commits suicide, that list of trump/russia dealings to imply he's a manchurian candidate...

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        4 years ago

        The claim is that China is enforcing draconian laws limiting births. So having too many kids or too frequently is punished with abortions. Honestly, it's probably happening. Its just that its getting such a massive signal boost that's the problem. Like, what's going on is Saudi Arabia, Brazil, India or Israel? They're our allies, so we won't say anything. I've actually been to Xinjiang and have been following stories from there for a while, and there is definitely an ongoing project to quash the Uyghur culture. The worst i read about was in 2009 or so, when they relocated people from their 1000 year old homes in the old city of kashgar to high rise apartment buildings. Then they demolished the old city citing the earthquake risk. Protests ensured and the police used live ammo and killed over 100 people. Its not good.

        • charly4994 [she/her, comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          Back near the Beijing Olympics my mother spent some time in China and even back then the one child rule wasn't this hard law like it was hyped up to be for me growing up. Not that the law didn't have issues and favored the rich, but that's hellworld.

            • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              Have you listened to right wing discourse around abortion in America? It's all forced to them. This is literally a right wing talking point and people are eating it up because it's China.

                • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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                  4 years ago

                  I'm just trying to point out that the phrase "punished with abortions" is right wing propaganda. The same discourse happens in America around abortion.

                  The right wing sees it as evil, so they call it a punishment instead of a liberty. Providing access and infrastructure for abortions in a place that had none before is not genocide.

    • LeninsRage [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Considering what they flaired it I'd argue even the /r/worldnews mods are becoming aware of how extreme the propaganda drive is getting

    • NationalizeMSM [none/use name]
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      I got called out in the thread by someone accusing me of genocide denial. Then said I'm reported and the admins should ban me. And to check my post history. Too bad it all went away when CTH was banned! Lol

      Meanwhile, I checked his post history. He posted 80 comments on the last 24 hours. One of which says he loves on DC, has a job and is hoping he doesn't get laid off, like previous jobs. I think his job is posting. And I replied to that effect.

      Edit: they deleted that comment calling for reviewing my post history, below which is mine about theirs.

  • Pickle_Lenin [any]
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    4 years ago

    Do redditors really upvote anything anti-China? Fuck it, at this point I think we could post photos of U.S. war crimes and get to the front page if we just include the word 'uyghur' in the title.

    • Dear_Occupant [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I just spent a bunch of time reading r/Sino going through some of the debunkings and that's pretty much what the propagandists are doing. They just take a picture or a video of something that isn't even in China, make up a story, and post it. Big media outlets are doing this shit, it's not just randos on Twitter.

  • callovthevoid [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Yeah, the other day I saw one that was like "Uighur Temple destroyed and used as public urinal" or something like that.

    It was from Radio Free Asia.