It is pretty funny to say they used our values against us, when you did still just let it rip, right, JUST FUCKING BOMBED THE SHIT OUT OF THOSE CIVILIANS, and by funny i mean dreadful and maddening really. link

    • Vncredleader
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      3 years ago

      Poor Taraki, if only Brezhnev had made clear he supported him not Amin instead of letting everything play out and THEN storming in only when they find that Taraki was dead

        • Vncredleader
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          3 years ago

          Exactly. Brezhnev knew that, and yet did it anyways. That's what I'm saying. He went beyond wishy-washy, he gave clear signals to different sides which contradicted. Like telling Amin that killing Taraki was his decision, while also letting Taraki know the USSR favored him far more.

          Honestly dealing with Amin was the dumbest move after a while, he wouldn't even condemn the US for backing the terror groups, only blamed Pakistan, despite knowing full well who backed them. He wanted to have his cake, eat it too, and then be given 10 more cakes.

          I think interventionism limited to Kabul would be disastrous even if done early. The revolution was not not popular enough, and keeping a single city like that would mean war, and a defensive one at that. They would need to secure the border, which would mean more than Kabul, which would mean same as what did happen. Getting Taraki in power without moving troops in and ensuring that the revolution did not alienate most of the country was the only way this would work. By the time Taraki was dead and they moved in, there was no justification for intervention. The revolution never had great support, at best it would have been another Derg if I am being cynical. They should've given open approval of Taraki no matter what though.

  • SoyViking [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    They wielded our own values against us

    Oh piss off. American values are cruelty, bullying and disgusting processed foods.

    Death to America, of course. :amerikkka:

  • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    I find this to be perhaps the most disgusting and cynical of all excuses the US military and its stooges make

  • Vncredleader
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    3 years ago

    the air war requiring dirty tactics like civilian bombings is LITERALLY the example given in Battle of Algiers

    "Isn't it even more cowardly to attack defenseless villages with napalm bombs that kill many thousands of times more? Obviously, planes would make things easier for us. Give us your bombers, sir, and you can have our baskets."

    Of course someone with the name French wouldn't understand, finding mass murder civil but revolutionary violence against the ruling class abhorrent comes with the name

  • ultraviolet [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Western pigs will still shoot and/or harass civillians even if there are no terrorists with them because the system incentives the worst people to sign up for military duty. I remember a video where some military chuds just ran over some guy's car using their tank because they get off on abusing other human beings.

      • Dingus_Khan [he/him, they/them]
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        3 years ago

        Or putting dog crap in candy wrappers and tossing it from convoys to kids that are malnourished due to decades of sanctions wars and occupations

        • 1van5 [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Holy fuck i didnt know this was a thing

    • AFineWayToDie [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I'd only blame the terrorists if they seriously thought the US would hesitate to murder innocent civilians. And I'd only blame them for thinking too highly of the US.

  • LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    How did they wield our values against us exactly? Aren't our values supposed to be "don't kill civilians" and yet, we killed civilians. That negates any presupposed values.

    • Goadstool
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      2 months ago

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  • Mrtryfe [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    There is seriously something wrong with David French's brain. This is not a person with a soul or with any good in their heart