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  • Puggo [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I wasn't ready to find out that Parenti has dementia :kitty-cri:

    • Parent [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Poor guy. As someone who's never met anyone with dementia why couldn't they ask him about theory or current events? Would he just not understand the question at all?

        • bismuthspoon [comrade/them]
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          3 years ago

          Once had a professor who told us entirely unjokingly that seeing their father's battle with dementia was why they kept a gun at home

            • Awoo [she/her]
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              3 years ago

              I can believe it. I didn't have to watch that kind of thing with my dad, who died of cancer, but watching his deterioration over 1 year really changed my relationship with death. It affected me profoundly and I absolutely do not want anyone else to have to go through seeing that. For dementia it is a drawn out long process of years and the effect that must create would be horrific.

          • aFairlyLargeCat [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            :this:

            I've seen enough friends and family go through it and it's the one thing that if I'm diagnosed with (and there's a decent chance in the next decade or so) then I'm putting everything in order, having a party with friends then killing myself, not a joke.

      • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        I genuinely hope no one close to you has to go through it. But essentially yeah. It has varying degrees of severity and manifests differently but it is literally your brain fucking with you. Confusing memories for the present, mood swings, temporary amnesia. It's a fucking nightmare and it breaks my heart to know he's experiencing it. I'm 30 and have it in writing that I want to be euthanized if it happens to me (we recently got that option and it let my grandfather go out on his own free will surrounded by family instead of dragging on his misery for years and being a burden he had lung issues but my grandmother on my mom's side had pretty severe dementia from a head injury before she went and it terrifies me to me core beyond anything else.

  • Downanotherday [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    We tried to tell him many times that he's very important to the youth. We even showed him some anti-chomsky memes that he got a laugh out of.

    The kids are in fact alright.

  • Windows97 [any, any]
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    3 years ago

    unfortunately he has very advanced dementia

    :deeper-sadness:

  • wtypstanaccount04 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Reading Blackshirts and Reds singlehandedly changed my opinion on Marxism-Leninism. :fidel-salute-big: to a real hero who educated the most reactionary place during its most reactionary times. He fought the hard, hard fight, and deserves so many accolades. :parenti:

  • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Saw that thread earlier, and had a little moment.

    Fellas, is it gay when your eyes get all wet and shit?

  • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Beautiful beautiful :parenti: yellow parenti, any parenti. I love seeing parenti clips. His anti imperialism is always so precise, so pointed. In a single paragraph he could accomplish so much.

    • effervescent [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      He said in one of his later lectures that his ability to turn a phrase was much sharper when he was younger

        • Neckbeard_Prime [they/them,he/him]
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          3 years ago

          That was Molotov, the last of the OG Bolsheviks:

          https://espressostalinist.com/2011/03/10/molotovs-final-days/

          In 1986 Molotov was watching TV one day when Soviet Foreign Minister, Edvard Shevardnadze came on the news making some statement. Molotov rose from chair in a rage, shouting “What the hell is he saying! That’s revisionism! Pure revisionism! Worse than revisionism! Has he gone off his head? I hope Stalin hasn’t gotten wind of this yet, or there’ll be hell to pay. Tell Shevardnadze I want to see him in my office TODAY at 4:00 pm SHARP. And he better have a good explanation for this garbage!”

          When they heard the shouting, his grandchildren rushed into the room and tried to calm him, saying “Grandpa relax! It’s just the news. You’re not Foreign Minister anymore. It’s 1986. Stalin’s been dead for 30 years.” Molotov calmed down and muttered “I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I just got so worked up. My memory isn’t all it used to be anymore.”

    • comi [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Why not take kissinger as an example or queen? :downbear:

      • crime [she/her, any]
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        3 years ago

        Cause neither pretends to be a leftist while getting trotted out by the DNC to give legitimacy to their reactionary candidate among the left, nor do they pretend to be leftists while celebrating the fall of the USSR and likening it to the defeat of Axis powers (which of course only happened because of the USSR)

        • comi [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          So? Still wouldn’t wish dementia on the guy, there are prolly tens of millions people shittier than our boy for one thing, second thing why be sectarian over it, when these shittier ghouls are right there. bloomberg also prolly celebrated ussr collapse, and got wheeled out by dnc.

          Or definition of a leftist is to immediately attack left-adjacent people with some bad opinions as first example? :meow-tableflip:

          • crime [she/her, any]
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            3 years ago

            I don't wish dementia on the guy, but among the categories of old school leftists, it sucks to lose the cool ones (Graeber and parenti) rather than the shills

            Is it sectarian to point out that it's awful lib shit to celebrate the collapse of the USSR and liken it to the defeat of fascist powers in Europe? Because if you honestly believe that the fall of the USSR was anything but a catastrophe for the human race (going by the last 30 years of the USA as a largely-unchallenged global superpower) then I don't know what to tell you

            • comi [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              Being from russia, it is lib yes, but then again irrelevant as chomsky didn’t have anything to do with it. I still harbor much darker feelings toward Kissinger and gorbachev (out of alive people). As this comment started “why not the other guy getting dementia” (or at least could be read this way), this “other guy” example can be just as well a true ghoul, and not lose any meaning :sadness-abysmal:

              • crime [she/her, any]
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                3 years ago

                Oh sure if we're ranking people as a whole then I'd much rather any horrible fate befell Kissinger and actual ghouls first, but if we're going in the category of "left adjacent old people" then I'd rather bad things not happen to the best ones

                • comi [he/him]
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                  3 years ago

                  Ok, compare following comment:

                  Bro, how come his mind goes, but :die-motherfucker: stays

                  With op’s.

                  Framing of left-adjacent is forced by op, it’s not required by comment intention. Additionally arguing which left figure would rather get dementia has same energy as who do you love more, mother or father? There is no good outcome to answer, so argument is bad by itself

                  • crime [she/her, any]
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                    3 years ago

                    "Who do you love more, mother or father" is a very easy question though, I hate my dad less than I hate my mom so it's him.

                    I don't think there's anything wrong with keeping an ordered list of people you'd rather not have bad things happen to. I think it goes without saying for most of the site that Kissinger is at or near the top, and I don't think there's any problem with not listing him every time.

                    I will always disagree that there's anything wrong with OP comparing a leftist and a left-anticommunist that famously had beef with him, and wishing that the good one was doing better than the other.

                    • comi [he/him]
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                      3 years ago

                      Sorry for comparison :meow-hug:

                      I mean sectarianism is wrong, at least completely unprovoked. Reading this comment for anarchist would be somewhat shitty, while kissinger one would be fine.

                        • comi [he/him]
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                          3 years ago

                          a) riddle me this: No author works in a vacuum. This critique builds on work that came before it. I want to express my gratitude to persons who played no active role in the preparation of this manuscript but whose efforts provided a valuable foundation and inspiration for my own, specifically George Seldes, James Aronson, Noam Chomsky Herbert Gans, Robert Cirino, Todd Gitlin, Alexander Cockburn, Peter Drier, Andrew Kopkind, Edward Herman , -preface to Inventing Reality

                          b) he cites herman throughout the book, which quick ctrl-f will confirm for you

                            • comi [he/him]
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                              3 years ago

                              I've read lorenzoe article, the failure to cite is whatever academic failure. That chomsky found a niche to grift himself a living by not pissing the state too much, and being leftward manufactured consent victim - sure. I wouldnt wish dementia on him tho

                      • crime [she/her, any]
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                        3 years ago

                        Chomsky isn't an anarchist though, he doesn't call himself one?

    • notthenameiwant [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Do not speak about Anarchist grandpa like that. Shame on you. Poisonous motherfucker.

      • wtypstanaccount04 [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        :LIB:

        My response to the end of Soviet tyranny was similar to my reaction to the defeat of Hitler and Mussolini. In all cases, it is a victory for the human spirit. It should have been particularly welcome to socialists, since a great enemy of socialism had at last collapsed.

        • :chumpsky:
      • SolidaritySplodarity [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        More like :LIB: grandpa, guy doesn't even identify as anarchist. Usually calls himself left libertarian and almost called himself a syndicalist decades ago but never committed.

          • SolidaritySplodarity [they/them]
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            3 years ago

            Left libertarianism is used in a much wider sense than anarchism and includes people like Bookchin and liberals like Chomsky. There are left libertarians that don't believe in the deconstruction of key hierarchies, for example, so long as certain liberties are retained. Example: Peter Vallentyne's self-label is accepted despite him having zero economic analysis and generally supporting capitalism and liberalism.

  • flowernet [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    How long has his dementia been bad? I wrote him an email a few years ago and seemed to get a personal reply that mentioned specific people he knew.