• Alaskaball [comrade/them]A
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    3 years ago

    That the OPs of baitposts designed to get people to put out their shitty opinions should first put out their shit takes

  • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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    3 years ago

    ah, the perennial /r/askreddit thread, "what's an unpopular opinion you hold?"

    of course i think eugenics is actually good, the books my high school english teacher assigned were actually bad, and racism isn't a big deal

  • MendingBenjamin [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    January 6th was an attempted coup and libs frothing at the mouth over that shouldn’t make us downplay the attempt

    • BrezhnevsEyebrows [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      That shit would have been unthinkable in the US 10 years ago, maybe even 5 years ago. Conditions in this country are changing quickly

    • ssjmarx [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I hear ya. Just because the QAnon people with no central organization or discipline and a leader who bailed on them right after inciting them into action were bad at doing a coup doesn't mean that wasn't their explicit goal.

      • MendingBenjamin [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        QAnon is unorganized, but they’re just part of the militant wing. The event was just as much facilitated by more organized figures in the movement as it was by randos on 8chan. It’s pretty apparent that like half of the Fox News anchors were in on it and the Libertarian Billionaire crowd and their think tanks put out ads and funded bussing. They haven’t figured out how to pull it off, but there are elements of capital that want this.

        • RNAi [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Why would capital delegitimaze itself and all its stupid myths by making a coup over such small difference in management. If you are rich why would you care about who's president of the US for fuck sakes

        • ssjmarx [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Eh, I think that if you compare the things you would actually have to do to coup the federal government with the things the more "organized" figures in Fox News and such did it's such a different ballpark I'm not even sure the organized part of Jan 6 were aware of what sport they were playing.

          To coup the federal government, you would need the support of top military officials or the intelligence apparatus (preferably both). The military would have to occupy Washington DC and lock it down while the FBI/CIA make mass arrests. The press would have to be lead through statements about how there is an emergency and the military is "handling it". You would then have to do all of this again in at least half of the fifty states very quickly before the state governors who oppose you get their political machines in gear to do something like activate their national guard.

          By contrast, the Jan 6 people got around 10k unaffiliated people into DC and incited a riot. That's it.

          • Wheaties [she/her]
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            3 years ago

            Someone on chapo said something along the lines of

            They wondered into the building where politics happens and waited for a cutscene to start

            It certainly demonstrates that a competent, charismatic general would have the base of support to pull off a coup. But i don't think we have any figures near power that are competent and charismatic enough.

  • a_fanonist_hexagon [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    it is safe, legal, and ethical to recharge eels by dumping your old car batteries in the ocean

  • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    1984 is a good book because it accurately describes life in the imperial core police state. Never read animal farm so idk about that one.

    • UncleJoe [comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      The book got a whole lot more interesting once I found out about Orwell's actualy politics and the context in which he wrote it

      There's a reason the book is not about the big evil meanie Ruski communists (although Big Bro is obviously a stand-in for a Hitler/Stalin figure, a precursor to the "totalitarianism" meme), instead it takes place in the UK in a future he saw as plausible, based on his experiences working for the BBC. He experienced the propaganda, surveillance and bureaucracy firsthand, he knew what was coming. If anything, shit like double-think and newspeak and "we've always been at war with Eurasia" literally just describes anglo/US media today. What is Oceania if not Five-Eyes? What is Big Brother if not just the NSA? I'm sad to say he did get most of it right, except for the complete opposite reasons right-wingers think.

    • Glass [he/him,they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Its a decent little parable, but what really gets me is that the libs who wave it around as a polemic against socialism think they've got it all figured out, when really these motherfuckers are still blaming Snowball for the mill failing.

      • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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        3 years ago

        Yeah the book totally gets socialism ass-backwards and wrong, reading it as a allegory for communism feels like something dreamed up by a deranged person. But if you read it as late stage capitalism, it clicks a bit.

  • Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    This website talks a lot of shit about reddit like we aren't all here because of a banned subreddit

  • Mabbz [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Idk about this website in particular but david lynch is overrated/overanalyzed and nobody will change my mind ever :screm-cool:

  • zeal0telite [he/him,they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Some of you let liberal IdPol drive your ideology more than you'd like to admit.

    Like I've seen some people say that you're not a real socialist if you're not a vegan, which way to discount literally every AES out there.

    Marxism is not a dogma, nor a moral framework, but an economic, political and social one and that's what you have to work in. Bolting on extra stuff to it can make it lose focus and appeal. Just pointless revisionism.

    If you're trying to "unite the workers of the world" you can't get upset if maybe some people don't have the same opinions as you. Some of those opinions might suck, but let's focus on removing the systems that enforce those lines instead of basically doing liberal reformism.

  • Ithorian [comrade/them, null/void]
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    3 years ago

    The only comments I've ever had removed were because of "eco-fash" I don't agree with that but I guess I do have some pretty extreme views on letting the planet return to it's wild state.

  • EnsignRedshirt [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Rick and Morty is overall a good show, both as a comedy and as relatively accessible high-concept sci fi (if a bit silly on that front). The politics of it are irrelevant because consumption isn't politics, also it's a dumb cartoon show. People wouldn't shit on it as much if the fans didn't jerk each other off about how smart they are for watching it. It's an enjoyable show made for mainstream audiences, nothing more and nothing less.

    • catposter [comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      i think the philosophical implications, of which all media has, are especially problematic and nihilistic in Rick and Morty. the politics don't matter that much though

      • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
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        3 years ago

        idk, at least in the early seasons the show tried to make the point multiple times that Rick's nihilism is wrong and causing nothing but pain to him and everyone around him

        but the bazinga brain fanbase didn't get it so they eventually just gave up on that

        • Owl [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Having a "not a role model" character with all the coolest lines, who never gets laid low by their flaws, is at best a failure of writing, and at worst a Rowlian ex-post-facto justification for an unpopular story element.

          • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
            hexagon
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            3 years ago

            The Sad Horse Show does the asshole protagonist better for this reason.

      • EnsignRedshirt [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        If you take the show as endorsing those philosophical implications, then agreed. I'm not sure that's the case, though. My read is that the nihilism isn't meant to be aspirational. Rick is a profoundly broken human being, and Morty is a child who is constantly traumatized by his antics. Everything they do and say to make sense of their circumstances is cope. The problem is that the fans thinks Rick is super awesome for being an alcoholic misanthrope, not realizing that in the real world he would just be a basket case, falling further into depression and substance use until he inevitably killed himself. The writers to try to signal that from time to time, but it doesn't seem to land, and I think that's largely on the audience.

        I could be being too generous. Maybe the writers are pitching straight up the middle and I'm being a fart-sniffing sophist. Wouldn't be the first time.

        • anaesidemus [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          they regularly shit all over their fanbase though, also they had to make an anti-nazi episode

          • EnsignRedshirt [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Like I said, I think the audience is the problem. It's certainly a problem.

      • spectre [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Yes but we wouldn't be here if the decision wouldn't have been made at the beginning. No use in relitigating it or anything, but in hindsight it's created far more issues that solutions from an outsiders perspective.