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    • bonefresh [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      breadtube is full of liberals who only care about leftist aesthetics

      • itsPina [he/him, she/her]M
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        4 years ago

        It used to be genuinely good but then contrapoints and hbomb came out as libs and the subreddit went with them.

        Philosophy Tube is still genuinely great tho

          • itsPina [he/him, she/her]M
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            4 years ago

            http://imgur.com/a/Dyoleww

            This is from his ask.fm or whatever it's called

            • TheMagicBurro [comrade/them]
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              4 years ago

              I mean I get where you're coming from here, but I wouldn't exactly assume that because someone doesn't support the DPRK or the USSR doesn't mean they're liberals, Anarchists would say the same thing

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                4 years ago

                The wanting to invade the DPRK part is incredibly liberal, the USSR part is whatever typical socdem shit

                • TheMagicBurro [comrade/them]
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                  4 years ago

                  Oops, I'm illiterate I don't know how I missed that military part. I retract my DPRK comment.

                  Still seen tons of Anarchists say the same for the USSR, also seen socdems too though so agree with ya there

                  • itsPina [he/him, she/her]M
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                    4 years ago

                    Yeah I don't care about the USSR shit tho I wish he was a little more well read. The DPRK bit is completely fucked tho, I hope he has rescinded that belief.

                      • gramsciezethemeans [he/him,they/them]
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                        4 years ago

                        Episode 20 is a great rundown on 20th century Korean history. The interviewee, Tim Shorrock, is the best American journalist you'll find covering the region.

                        https://www.breaker.audio/war-nerd-radio-subscriber-feed-2

                      • itsPina [he/him, she/her]M
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                        4 years ago

                        The US is constantly antagonizing the DPRK so I do think it would be fucked up to take their response to the antagonism and use that to justify regime change. Episode 2 of Citations Needed has a wonderful discussion on how the DPRK isn't some movie villain country full of people who want to nuke the world for no reason.

                        I guess to better answer your question: if you are a socialist of some stripe you should do some fucking research instead of just accepting whatever news you hear about a foreign country as gospel. You already have to do research to become a socialist, apply that to literally everything and you'll be much less lib

                          • itsPina [he/him, she/her]M
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                            4 years ago

                            I see where you are coming from and propaganda is used because it works so I don't blame the average lib for being brainwashed but I think we can both agree a self claimed socialist should do some independent research. Here's a good thread to combat some lib thoughts tho: https://rhizzone.net/forum/topic/13373/

    • HarryLime [any]
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      4 years ago

      The creator/head mod was a pretty frequent Chapo poster back in the day. I'd maybe consider messaging him, he might not know about the direction the sub is taking. It seems to just be one mod who's the problem.

      • itsPina [he/him, she/her]M
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        4 years ago

        I messaged a few of the mods and got ghosted completely. I assume theyre having some Internal discussion going on but when I replied to the permaban message I was instantly muted for 72 hours by the same person who banned me (/u/communistfox)

        It's sad because that sub is one of the biggest reasons I become an ML and now I get banned for trying to curb the China bad masses

        • HarryLime [any]
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          4 years ago

          /u/communistfox is also a mod for enough-sanders_spam and enough_chapo_spam. Otalp was mourning the loss of chapo earlier this month, I find it a little hard to believe he would be okay with this.

          • itsPina [he/him, she/her]M
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            4 years ago

            Alright my alt account where I tried to genuinely discuss with the subreddit about MLs and was EXTREMELY kind to the point where I think I helped another lefty see the light was just banned for tankiespam by the same dude. I think the sub is actually compromised. I was muted immediately as well. Real shame. I loved discussing with my fellow lefties.

          • itsPina [he/him, she/her]M
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            4 years ago

            To be fair the enoughsandersspam that he mods is the one that was taken over by actual Bernie Bros a while ago idk about the chapo spam one tho

            I'll give it a few days before I consider the sub truly compromised. Maybe Communistfox has gone off the rails and banned a bunch of MLs without discussing it with the rest.

          • itsPina [he/him, she/her]M
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            4 years ago

            There was a time when leninism was met with the same level of discussion everything was but now they just call him a tyrant and move on. Some of them have even read state and rev and hold that belief and honestly that befuddles me.

      • lakeradio [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Anarchists seem to talk about "Tankies" more than they talk about Anarchism.

        • 5HT [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          That's more an issue of being too online rather than the political tendency. Remember that chapo chat is for all of us :red-fist: