While in Mexico, the man had gone to the Mantamar Beach Club for parties, while in the state of Jalisco. [...] The man had arrived in Mexico on May 27. From May 12 to 16, he had been in Germany. [...] Before he had traveled he had been in his hometown in Texas.

  • Plants [des/pair]
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    2 years ago

    Seriously tho in a just society it should be illegal to knowingly spread disease and this man would be servely punished.

    • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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      2 years ago

      hmm i think you would actually dislike how such a "just society" would function. like i mean mass graves full of queer people, for starters.

        • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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          2 years ago

          anyone who is HIV positive or suspected of such. probably anyone with a congenital disability who has children. any intravenous drug user who bleeds on the cops when they kick them in the ribs.

          "oh but we'd simply use state violence to enforce social health in a just and progressive way" my point is there is not a progressive way to criminalize being diseased.

            • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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              2 years ago

              i know what they meant. they meant we'd use the law to harm people who should be harmed and protect people who should be protected. just like every other law, right?

          • Plants [des/pair]
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            2 years ago

            I guess I didn't say it but from the context of this post i was obviously talking about spreading infectious disease.

            • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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              2 years ago

              look, i know what you were talking about. you saw someone acting stupid and antisocial and thought "there ought to be a law." what i am saying is, noble as your intent might be, there is no form of such a law that doesn't eventually become fascist purges of the social virus. it's the same reason "pedophiles should be hanged in the public square without trial" is a fundamentally reactionary proposal, popular as it may be (even among carceral leftists).

              and I know i'm nitpicking because it's not like this is gonna happen anyway, except that i would like the radical left's analysis of social issues to break from the liberal impulse to solve every problem with a prison cell, because i believe it is exactly this faulty conception of justice which hobbles our ability to effectively make war on the present order.

              • Plants [des/pair]
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                2 years ago

                I never mentioned prison. I said punished.

                So...

                look, i know what you were talking about.

                Yeah apparently not. I and probably even on this website already know what you're talking about

                • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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                  2 years ago

                  i'm not playing this game with you where you tell me you didn't mean what you said and my reasonable critique is painted as a bad faith attack. what, you're saying we should "severely punish" people by revoking their library cards?

                  • Plants [des/pair]
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                    2 years ago

                    That would be a solid start.

                    I think we can both think of plenty of ways one can be punished that don't involve prison.

  • 20000bannedposters [love/loves]
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    2 years ago

    This is how much people want to party and why i no longer think the 2020 was a summer of social upheaval and more a summer of bros and Tracey's mad they couldnt get shit faced in pubic when they wanted to

    • Pseudoplatanus22 [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Getting shitfaced in public is fun. Lockdowns fucking sucked. This doesn't mean they shouldn't have happened, but I can hardly blame people for getting pissed off about not being able to enjoy basically the only thing there is for groups of adult friends to do together.

      • 20000bannedposters [love/loves]
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        2 years ago

        Of all the injustices that year. People rioted cuz they couldn't get tilted. That's the state of America. Pretty sad imo.

        • Pseudoplatanus22 [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          It is sad, but you're framing it as a moral failing, when in fact it's a bit more complex than that.

          I'm from a country where we actually did lock down fully for months at a time, and the isolation had a huge negative effect on most people, myself included.

          To act as though they were just mindless frat bros and "Traceys" is missing a lot of context. Also, there were plenty of people who did go into the streets to protest police injustice that year too. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make, other than what we already all know on this site.

          • 20000bannedposters [love/loves]
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            2 years ago

            I know it's a bunch of bros and Tracey's cuz i know a bunch of them that went to the protests. Many cuz it was really the only thing you could do. And now they are all back to festival life. Many of them never cared about politics before being locked down.

            What happened to police injustice? It's not a thing any more. People don't care. Why is that? It's cuz they can go out now and are back to bread and circuses. We just had 19 police officers waiting out side a school for an hour while 11 year olds got slaughtered. People have moved on from acab.

            It's hard to accept that. But it wasn't an uprising. It was just masses of bored frustrated people going out. It didn't lead to anything. It was consumers not being able to do the only hobby they have. Which is to buy shit.

            Believe me. I was hyped and ready for the uprising. I thought people where finally doing it. We where finally going to change shit for the better

            2 years later it's pretty clear that i was very wrong. My posts from back than aged horrible. People just wanted to get drunk and eat out. And once that was back on the menu everything calmed down.

  • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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    2 years ago

    Chuds have a jason bourne sleeper agent training for avoiding all enemy freedom harming operations(read: basic infectious disease safety regulations).

    • FirstToServe [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Once escaping the hospital, AFP reported that the man went to a hotel to meet his partner, before catching a June 4 flight out of Puerto Vallarta.

  • Quimby [any, any]
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    2 years ago

    fuck. it's REALLY hard to resist becoming a misanthrope sometimes...

    • rubpoll [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      Don't blame humans, that's what the bad guys want you to do. Blame capitalism and the psychopathic levels of selfishness it perpetuates.