I swear patsocs have to be feds posing as Marxists to give easy targets to anti-communists. No one is this stupid.
No one is this stupid
Being American is a pathway to many opinions some would consider to be... fedposting
I know there definitely are Americans who would be this dumb, but theres something about patsocs that just seems so manufactured. Idk, they're probably not all feds but their shit is definitely being astroturfed to smear Marxists
I guess the thing that makes me skeptical is that American nationalist brainworms run so deep that I can definitely imagine people being like this unironically. Like yeah, responding to any sort of critique of the US with the flag and an eagle is very on brand.
But yeah, there could definitely be a fed element, and at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter if you're actually technically working for the feds or not if you're still serving imperialist ends. Perhaps a better way to think about the fedposting angle is not necessarily to think of it as dedicated agents whose job it is to sit on a computer like :fedposting: and log onto twitter every day, but rather the feds putting certain rhetoric out, and idiots picking it up and running with it. The first few original patsocs may have been feds (or at least may have been fed talking points by feds), but at this point it might be pretty much a self-sustaining thing.
Oh absolutely. there are certainly bot farms run by the intelligence agencies, but if feds were behind this its more like those accounts would be used to prop up figures like haz/hinkle/etc and then they'd get actual followers in the mix posting stuff like the above.
Im mostly shitposting when I say they have to feds. I agree American brainworms explains this just as well
that makes no sense though as the public like american patriotism
The public also hates communism. Anti-communism is ingrained in the American public, and generally a part of deprogramming that is learning that America is bad. Its very odd to have a person espousing both a communist ideology and American patriotism because the two are pretty clearly opposed to each other
i feel like its got to be a bit. like i feel like there's maybe 30 genuine self-identified "patsocs" in the country and then a whole lot of people saying inane, obviously untrue shit to troll people online
Most of these dipshits hide behind irony and humor to cover for how contradictory and dumb their beliefs are
When you reject pro-American propaganda from the CIA so you write your own
Super fucking toxically lib postmodern books from the 60s throw the word Stalinist around all over, and its key word that book was NGO funded.
Wow, the Stalin pfp, just absurd.
How can you possibly twist your brain into "I'm hyper pro-US and think Stalin would approve of that?"
:same-picture:
of course.
But follow up with :stalin-gun-1: :stalin-gun-2:
Do I have to keep having to say the same thing on the same topic every four to six months?
No the American Revolution was not a communist Revolution, it was a bougeoise Revolution. Stop watching youtube debatebros and go read a fucking history book you dumb hog.
No the American Revolution was not a counter-revolution, thats lib-brain historical revisionism. Major communist figures acknowledged the progressive role of the founding fathers in history in their revolt against late-stage feudalism as it was an advance of society from an older more reactionary stage of development.
No the literal British Empire, the empire that started the international slave trade, implemented it in America, and held all its colonial subjects in all-but-name slavery, was not more progressive than a bunch of Yankee hick slave owning merchants.
No, the founding fathers did not primarily start their revolution because they wanted to keep their slaves or because they wanted to keep expanding colonial borders. Those were a portion of the material reasons they fought. Their development of a national character independent of the British people in conjuction to the undemocratic British aristocratic system and the Yankees objections to being used as proxy to help fight the British wars played a stronger role in the reason for their secession.
No, just because it was initially progressive does not mean it continued being progressive.
No, just because it's concidered a progressive Revolution means you should necessarily uphold it as a goal. Merely acknowledging its place in history is enough.
Yes I know the French Revolution was more based because of the choppy choppy.
Yes America sucks. It sucks less that the fucking British. That was true then and its still true now :british-maw:
Happy America sucks and fuck the British day.
Goddamn it just when you think Stalin's reputation can't get any worse
That's how you know they're nazis with extra steps, because the whole US state department propaganda effort was to equate the USSR with the nazis
There was once a belief that the revolutionary energy of the American revolution would naturally progress into a proletarian revolution but realistically I think the patriotic socialist dream has been dead for 100+ years
Patsocs 🤝 Birchers
Thinking the USA is communist.
Horseshoe Theory Validated.
I didn't even know patsocs were a thing and I'm still not sure they are
if the early 20th century progressive movement won and we were living in their country today, I'd rock flag and eagle.
