I never know with Mr Martin.

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    The even rapeyer and more misogynistic show tanked a lot of people's interest in the books already (and not because of the extra rape/misogyny, either). I think GRRM has very little motivation to ever finish.

  • CrimsonDynamo [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Never coming out. He has too many other irons in the fire that will be money makers. I firmly believe he's not in it for the "art" anymore, if he ever was.

    Dude has a couple of tv shows coming out and there's more money in sitting on your ass rehashing stuff you've already written.

  • volcel_olive_oil [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    TWOW yes, ADOS a shuddering "m-maybe?"

    GRRMs recent blog posts and interviews indicate he's over the hump with winds

    the man can write at lightning speed when he has a clear path in mind (as evidenced by the lore books released after ADWD)

    • Aryuproudomenowdaddy [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      I don't think the great bearded glacier has another book in him imo unless he's already got it largely outlined. He's in his mid 70s and I'm assuming his cholesterol is through the roof.

      • TerminalEncounter [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        Hopefully he leaves enough outlines and notes that people can kind of suss out what was supposed to happen. I just wanna know what's up with Azor Ahai... just confirm to me if the prince who was promised is John Snow and I'll be happy.

  • Gamer_time [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    As Jerma said, it's going to be released, and then near the beginning there will be a chapter named "Meteor: I" describing how a giant space rock is hurtling towards the planet. The book ends at the point where Martin gave up, with the final chapter "Meteor: IV" describing how everyone is blown up by the meteor and life is over, the end.

  • gueybana [any]
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    2 years ago

    You still care? After watching that last season, I have no interest in reading any more of these books.

      • gueybana [any]
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        2 years ago

        Yeah, but do you expect GRRM to change things significantly? I can think of the whole mission Davos was sent on to that universe's version of the Burmuda Triangle or whatever, but that's the only thing I can imagine being something significantly different.

        • volcel_olive_oil [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          the show pretty much ignored almost everything introduced in AFFC/ADWD and cut and rearranged the rest to fit their shock value doctrine

          the books already have changed significantly, and they did so before a show was made

        • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          He's been pretty clear that the show did not closely flow the outline he gave them and that his plans have changed even more since then.

        • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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          2 years ago

          There are so many more pieces in play in the books than there are in the show. I honestly could see the ending being significantly different, especially if Martin remembers better than the showrunners did that Tyrion is capable of being a villain

        • CanYouFeelItMrKrabs [any, he/him]
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          2 years ago

          There were plot lines in the book that were not addresses in the show. It'll probably be better. Even just not rushing things would be good

  • HarryLime [any]
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    2 years ago

    It'll be released at some point, but George may not be alive when it does.

      • cosecantphi [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Someone would definitely do it anyway, right? Just for the sake of completing the story I mean, not to sell books and merchandise.

        I imagine if it ever becomes totally and indisputably clear that GRRM is never finishing the books, then several people will take it upon themselves to do it. Who knows, maybe one or more of these fan continuations might actually be good.

        • ssjmarx [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          There was a fan rewrite of the last seasons of the show that was basically crowdsourced like this. It's a curiosity but without legitimacy it'll just be a pretender to the canon.

      • KiaKaha [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Apparently RJ took a similar stance, but repented before his death, and let his wife-editor pick his replacement. (Sanderson)

      • 18558355324 [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        Probably the right choice. I would like a rough outline at least. Hell, even just bullet points of major events and outcomes.

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      2 years ago

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  • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I've given up. If it drops, hey new stuff to read. If it doesn't... oh well.

  • BolsheWitch [she/her, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    I’m assuming he won’t, but if he somehow does finish off the series, then it’s a bonus. Can’t be disappointed if you just expect the guy to die.

  • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I finished the books in like 2013 back when I was in high school. I have long given up.

  • Tychoxii [he/him, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    still banking on winds of winter being released within my lifetime

    not so much dream of spring