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Like I know I have low self-esteem, but why the hell do people have the confidence and hubris to weigh in when they literally don’t know shit?!?!
the anonymity of the internet and the proliferation of the "hot take economy"? i see shit like this all over twitter and even here too, it's not just a liberal thing lol.
like it's a little embarrassing to be called out or corrected in person, but you can say whatever you want on the internet and no one's going to remember you're the one who doesn't know the difference between Uyghurs and Uruguayans, or how you spouted off some dumbass take without reading the article/knowing the context. and if you're somewhat famous your followers will just make excuses or ignore it. people don't get that it's ok to just not say anything sometimes
Libs are constantly jockeying to be on the right side of history so they won't apply a critical lens to the information they absorb if it's morally shocking. In this case even reading one of the articles or learning to pronounce 'Uyghur' is tantamount to being a tankie genocide denier. Just internalize and move on!
Internet socialization is mostly about repeating and internalizing what people in your in-group say and crapping on what anyone outside of it say. Learning and humility are secondary at best.
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Absolutely, I mean it's really about internalizing and repeating what people in your in-group say and crapping on what anyone outside of it say. Humility and learning are secondary at best, comrade.
unwarranted confidence in things they know nothing about is a liberal trademark at this point
White cishet guys who have always been rewarded socially for saying whatever cognitive diarrhea pops into their mind.
Combine that with the internet’s “hot take machine”, :freeze-peach: brainworms, and the :cia: using :reddit-logo: as a propaganda machine… perfect conditions for chauvinism and arrogance.
No investigation, no right to speak.
Everyone has to have an opinion on something. You know how when you were a child and thought being “political” meant you were mature and intelligent? Yeah some people never grew out of that phase
there are barely any Uruguayans left in China, when will it stop :trans-sad:
I had a lib coworker get really mad that I supported China, "Don't you know they are genociding Rohinga muslims!?!". lmao you can't even get your muslims right in your fake ass outrage.
Imagine going back to 2002 or isis era and telling people Americans are gonna be super concerned about the plight of Muslims in China one day
America and Europe were fiending to slaughter anyone with a beard and brown skin following the Europe attacks and now they have tears rolling down their cheek for Muslims lmao.
The next Rambo movie will be dedicated to the brave fighters of the East Turkestan Liberation Front. It will age as well as Rambo 3.
I thought that was intentional, and it was hilarious, then I realized they were deadly serious, and it became funnier
If China is doing genocide against the Uyghurs, they’re doing a pretty shit job at genocide considering the Uyghurs are the second fastest growing ethnic group in all of China.
Second only to
Tibetans.
This reminded me of the “Han supremacy” discourse on Reddit right about the time I bailed
unlike me, the proud white man upholding the western cultural values of “eating fried food until my heart explodes” and “vaping roundup”
:glucker: :speech-l:
I had no idea it existed either, but glucker is the textbook bleach demon laowai
meanwhile, actual CPC literature on Han chauvinism
Han supremacy is when you legally limit the number of children Han people can have, while allowing minorities to have as many kids as they want.
If that policy was ever introduced anywhere in the West, there'd be unending screeching about White genocide.
Reddit is full of reactionary western "leftists". From calling Lenin a traitor to the working class to calling USSR and China imperialist countries. Chauvinistic crackers masquerading as "leftists" to shill for the west.
The chauvinism of :reddit-logo: is insufferable and makes even most of “left” reddit unusable. I saw someone call Lenin an opportunist and claim queer rights were “bourgeoisie decadence” in a single comment.
In contrast, Hexbear banning for chauvinism, sectarianism, and bigotry has made this site one of the only functional leftist spaces on the western internet. “Free speech” spaces are an idealist grift that only benefit entrenched power.
The rhetoric and ideas of oppressors, colonizers, and imperialists should be censored.
Thats not reddit, thats the general legacy and position of modern american "libleft" . They arent "online positions". They are the mainstream and the ones held and propagated by figureheads like Chomsky. Of course you can fault red scare and cointelpro but at some point onwards its chauvinism and embracing anti-communism more happily than any population on earth
True enough it's just that reddit is full of them. But when your chemistry rofessor is all like "ummmm didn't u know Stalin inspired Hitler" something is definitely amiss
Of all the heroes I've killed in my life Wikipedia is I think the one that pains me the most.
there has to be a strain of weird american conservative that loves China specifically because they think they're actually genociding muslims. That's a type of guy who has to exist.
Its like the patsocs that love Stalin because they believe the propaganda about him
I doubt it. 54% of Americans read below the equivalent of a sixth-grade level and Americans are also infamous for being unable to identify any other countries on a map.
I'd bet $5 this is 196 and that sub is filled with actual children.
they should stop being blood thirsty chauvinists regardless of their age
:eric-andre:
umm excuse me it’s rude to condemn the hitler youth for claiming the jews are controlling the banks. they are just heckin children
Yeah they have a post about "countries that got away with ethnic genocide" on the front page right now, as if China is getting away with its treatment of Uyghur Muslims, which isn't even genocidal in any way, on the same level that the US got away with indigenous genocide or France and the UK with gestures wildly. So probably it's 196.
I got banned for saying I found it doubtful Uyghur's were being herded into organ farming camps.
They love repeating this line, which makes me suspect Amerika probably harvests the organs of the innocent people enslaved within its massive prison systems.
I dated a girl who was in a near fatal car crash that left her with an assortment of surgical scars and her father had been very adamant that because she was an organ donor that they had almost let her die to harvest her young undamaged insides. It has occurred to me that a society where an assortment of vehicle related deaths are considered the norm is a great boon for people waiting for a new kidney or lung.
EMTs don't have time to check that shit
if you're worried about it lobby for changing the system to opt-out instead of opt-in. (because religious weirdos care about their organs for some reason )
The organ farming accusations are Falun Gong canard, likewise most of the claims about Xinjiang literally stem from Al Qaeda agitprop. There was an al qaeda propaganda video on youtube uploaded in 2014 with all of Zenz's 2019 claims in it but it seems to be gone now.
I also got banned from that sub for questioning the Uyghur genocide narrative
One of the best parts of not going on :reddit-logo: anymore is not being accused of being a genocide denier anytime I assert that just maybe China isn't the Great Satan who are committed to global Han domination.
I don't remember if I ever commented on that sub before I deleted my account, I think I didn't. I gotta admit that I still browse it daily because it's the only large subreddit that is mostly fine politically.
it’s the only large subreddit that is mostly fine politically
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A captured “leftist” sub that apparently caters to teenagers and is also imperialist?
Sounds like the state department has managed to narrow the range of acceptable discussion on :reddit-logo: very effectively.
Yes it's garbage on anything foreign policy (much better at calling out Western imperialism than usual and has the usual reddit brainworms on Ukraine) but there's no transphobia (sometimes there's chasers though) and they dunk on neolibs. I prefer /r/TrueAnon and SLS but those subs get 2 orders of magnitude fewer posts.
fair enough. I forget how difficult it is to find non-transphobic places online that are not exclusively queer. Hexbear has spoiled me.
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Yeah I mean I'm cis so it's not really for my sake, just good to be somewhere where I know the other people aren't scumbags.
Oh, absolutely. I mean the same as well. Transphobes are fascists and finding places that throw them out is a literal baseline requirement for me.
The rights of queer people are non-negotiable, same as any marginalized community. Anyone who thinks otherwise is only a few drinks away from selling us all out for a red armband.
The venn diagram between 196 and VaushV is almost a circle at this point.
umm excuse me it’s rude to condemn the hitler youth for claiming the jews are controlling the banks. they are just heckin children
It's crazy to excuse them for just being young and ignorant, because if you're so ignorant how are you so caught up with the State Dep line?? If anything I'd be willing to give a pass to the guy who thought they were genociding Uruguayans because that's a hilarious mistake I would've made when I was 13.
It’s hilarious and also you would have learned not to do that by being mocked for talking about topics you hadn’t actually read about.
which isn’t even genocidal in any way,
it might be cultural genocide but english monolinguals have no shot at telling the difference.
The West specifically fought to exclude cultural genocide from all formal definitions of genocide when the international laws were being drawn up. It's outright hypocritical for them to pivot to this argument now, especially while providing zero evidence.
A recent article about cultural genocide in Tibet even used a photo of a school that was using both Chinese and Tibetan script in its teaching materials: https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/china-committing-cultural-genocide-against-tibetan-children/
good thing i'm not "the west" and can still talk shit about (possibly, maybe, at most, not that I could tell) cultural genocide.
Then they should be cyber bullied into shutting the fuck up while they are still impressionable and open to new ideas
actual children, your average american adults, what's really the difference
54% of Americans read below the equivalent of a sixth-grade level
lol lmfao
:amerikkka-clap:
Nation of illiterate bigots. USA cannot collapse soon enough.
Most "Leftist" Americans are white supremacist chauvinists who actively seek out news that reinforces that their civilization is superior to the people they've been told are their enemies.
umm excuse me it’s problematic to condemn the strasserites for claiming the jews are controlling the world banks. they are just heckin smol beans who are misinformed and can’t help it.
it’s really hard for them that Germany isn’t #1 rn okay? real :yikes: moment here kicking some well intentioned potential allies. this is why the left can’t win, you’re not willing to work with people
:stupidpol:
Cue an endless supply of Mayos claiming that Asian countries are more racist than America
This is the actual stance of a right winger I know and the subtextual stance of a liberal I know.
/r/teenagers for people whomst are going to do a heckin epic revolution.
Plugging Roderic Day's essay Masses, Elites, and Rebels: The Theory of “Brainwashing”.
These are not poor, misled, brainwashed but well-meaning people. These are members of a Thousand Year Reich who are actively searching for confirmation that they are superior to the people they deem inferior.
propaganda idea: just pretend to be this type of guy
