GET IN MY WAY PUNK YOU GONNA GET YOUR ASS BEAT NASTY DO IT TIL YOUR DAD SEES EMBARRASS YOUR WHOLE FAMILY
She's obviously wrong about porn being a plot to destroy the family or whatever, but the incest shit is true. When I quit it was everywhere. I'm pretty sure if you open any of the tube sites now you'd find some incest/faux incest shit on the front page. It's disturbing
The chuds would know, they like the shit on social media publicly "by accident" all the time. They're probably the main market for this shit.
The discourse reminds me of how hard it was to criticize the Disney Star Wars trilogy because of all the "PURPLE HAIR FEEEMALE BAD" frothing happening all the while.
There are serious issues in the porn industry, from the production onward. Worker abuse/exploitation is rampant and actors are grossly underpaid considering how much profit they make. The most notorious example I can think of being Mia Khalifa who for a time was just about the most famous person in the porn industry and received very little actual payment for her work, and the particular porn scene that made her world famous pretty much directly ties back into the topic of this thread.
Porn actors are very unlikely to have career opportunities outside of the porn industry, which locks them in because of the weird cultural hedonistic/puritan hybrid monstrosity that defines the west and how it sees, portrays, and consumes sexuality.
It doesn't stop there. Systemic racism is built right in. Mainstream interracial porn has the expectation, even the mandate, of political :us-foreign-policy: ethnicities as either exotic playthings or brutish conquering monsters.
The transphobic and chaser issues in the industry are staggering as well, normalizing and expanding the "othering" of trans people from the naming and marketing of such videos onward.
I don't have easy answers for any of those issues, but they are problems.
Yeah. My solution personally has been to quit. I know that's not realistic for people with internet access to do, especially single folks. And it does nothing to help the workers actually involved in producing porn. But it was harming me and I had to stop. And not because of puritan bs, because of the reasons you mentioned
Reduction, or even quitting, is a good thing for those harmed by the stuff. I have nothing but contempt for the "nofap" :reddit-logo: cryptofascist cult for having a near-total ideological monopoly on the idea for most people, though.
Yeah exactly. On :reddit-logo:, the pornfree subreddit is better and bans nofap talking points if I remember correctly. Also lot of people conflate masturbation with porn which leads to nofap type thinking, but it's perfectly fine to masturbate without porn.
Agreed, but now I am legally obligated to cede the podium to our friendly neighborhood VolCel officer. Oh, I think she's setting up a puppet show stage, neat!
:bunny-cop:
It's like AA and addiction. The AA system is terrible and has bad outcomes when addiction is already very hard to manage, but it has so much cultural penetration that most people don't even know there are alternatives.
I've heard of some people seeking AA alternatives being directed to AlAnon. You know, the Scientology subdivision. :agony-minion:
Oh my god. It's fucking dangerous for the average for people to not know that this whole country is all cults all the time.
there's always hentai and purported exhibitionists posting their own nudes, while not free of social problems don't carry nearly the same baggage.
The problem is that there's no truly reliable way of knowing on a mainstream porn search engine what was made with exploitation, or for that matter was intended for private viewing but later used as revenge porn later, and issues like that.
Edit: It isn't guaranteed that personal distribution is exploitation free but it certainly is more likely to be made and distributed without exploitation compared to PornHub or RedTube or the like. The :reddit-logo: style argument of "if any exceptions exist, no conclusions can be drawn at all" is sophistic and tiresome to me.
was intended for private viewing but later used as revenge porn later
Gonewild on Reddit tries to avoid this by having users post a picture of themselves with their user name, date, and "Gonewild" written on a piece of paper. It's not perfect and I'm sure some content gets posted without consent, but I don't know what else you could do that wouldn't require people to like send in their driver's licenses.
That does seem to be an improved system.
It beats the "if there's any possibility of the system being bypassed, it is just as flawed as any other system, therefore all porn and all porn distribution is equally right and wrong and consequently everything should be permitted because that's better than nothing being permitted" :reddit-logo: spectrum of takes, especially.
any art made for a corporation was made with exploitation, but that doesn't stop us from watching tv or listening to mainstream music
barring a reflection you can't know if a gun was pointed at the subject of a photograph, but I don't think i'm further harmed by some new person who i will never meet and cannot identify me seeing a picture of my butthole that someone screenshotted from snapchat or a google engineer illegally copied out of my email.
I think you missed the main point of what I had posted, regarding where the stuff is picked up and with how many degrees of separation from the maker.
you were talking about the provenance of digital files, yes?
i have no idea what your point was then. if some hentai artist was forced to draw a kink they don't like or scammed out of money they were owed by a publisher, that harm is done and dusted long before the work is scanlated and uploaded somewhere you or I would see it, and we don't compound the harm done by passively copying and observing art.
You sort of brought in your own hentai advocacy here from the start and I was talking almost entirely about videos and photography, as was focus of the topic of this thread.
it applies the same way. you don't know who I am or what I look like or which butthole is my butthole so how exactly do you assume any moral culpability from looking at a "stolen" or coerced picture of my butthole?
This is getting into borderline :reddit-logo: territory up to and including "it's almost as if that cartoon child porn is just lines on a page or just numbers in a computer" argument methods and I find those reductionist and sophistic, so I'm choosing to disengage.
Knowing that I'm appreciating the work of a writer/artist does enhance my enjoyment of doujinshi or other such artwork
I sign up for only fans accounts. In so far as porn can be ethical a single creator making their own content and getting like 80% of proceeds is about the best you can ask for right now. There's also voyeur forums on Reddit like Gonewild where people are posting pictures of themselves for voyeuristic reasons.
Just a general knowledge thing, but Khalifa has an onlyfans where she posts non-nude cheesecake content and apparently she's pulling down millions a month now.
Some actress was talking about how there was so much incest porn bc that's the customs that big $$$ customers were paying for, and everyone was chasing that dollar. If I was any good at anthropology it'd be interesting to try to map out the phenomena, figure out when it started, and who is paying for it.
The thing about incest porn is that its like a free additional revenue stream without any real cost.
If you shoot a porn about like, two clowns going to town on each other, a few people might REALLY like it but it's not gonna appeal to most people.
If you shoot a porn where two extremely different looking 30 year olds say the line "damn that's crazy how youre my step sibling" then the majority of people can simply ignore the obvious lie and just view it as a normal porn. The two actors aren't even the same ethnicity.
Even more, you can just cut the line out of most versions of it.
EVEN more, you can literally add the words "step-sister" to every single last video title regardless of content and again, the majority of people can just ignore it because it's obviously SEO spam, while the people actively looking for that will be finding your video.
They've clearly come to the conclusion that it's profitable to throw that around everywhere.
The thing about incest porn is that its like a free additional revenue stream without any real cost.
Truth. It's gotta be the laziest fetish content you can make. Literally the only way it differs from vanilla porn is that someone says "what are you doing stebro?"
I think it's a lot of right-wingers who are consuming incest porn, it's a pet theory but like I said, Ted Cruz liked a tweet about a step mom roleplay porn video, so.
Probably a not insignificant amount of people who are gonna skip the "plot" parts anyway who'll just ignore the dodgy titles as well, it wouldn't have stayed this prevalent in the mainstream if it was just the niche viewers after it
figure out when it started, and who is paying for it.
and kill them
This is absolutely true, every other clip on those sites is stepsister this, stepdad that. I am genuinely amazed why they do it, I refuse to believe that a significant amount of people out in the real world are actually into that.
The algorithms love it so :shrug-outta-hecks: from the companies
I think most people look past it, while the ones into it seek it out. So they get the views from both markets with one video, less costs.
She’s obviously wrong about porn being a plot to destroy the family or whatever
Few capitalists actively enjoy destroying the environment, but the damage is still done for profit. I think it is somewhat like that where the mainstream porn industry churns out whatever is most profitable and if the number of choking injuries and related acts of domestic violence increase, they just don't care.
What I don’t get is why it’s always “step”-whatever. Like, who’s the person going “it’s okay if they’re related legally, socially, and by upbringing, but being related by blood is what makes it icky”
it doesnt cost much to produce porn so any rich dude with a wierd fetish can produce like dozens of these for under $100k no problem and make most if not all the money back
Porn is a plot to steal your vital essences, keep your fluids where they are :volcel-judge:
Sure, "research". I'm going to have to ask you to step away from the computer ma'am:volcel-judge:
Have you seen his sister? [comment has been removed for horniness) :volcel-judge:
:awooga: :stalin-gun-1: :stalin-gun-2:
both of the people above are me. no i will not explain.
Trust nobody not even yourself.
https://pics.me.me/trust-nobody-not-even-yourself-~v-4704256.png
Man, If Ben started doing hormones and ended up looking like his sister, I would fAAAAARGH
:volcel-judge:
Target neutralised.
:geordi-no: watching porn for the sex
:geordi-no: watching porn for the exploitation
:geordi-yes: watching porn for the poorly acted comedy skits at the beginning and then hitting X before anything happens
My favorite was a star trek porn. When spock came it was green.
Some hentai has sexless edits on YouTube that are actually pretty watchable. Literal “I just read it for the articles” vibes
I still remember a video that had Hotel Mario's opening music.
Idk, the person fucks step sibling genre of porn is probably not good. Like, where does that even come from?
Apparently whales with deep pocket books will pay for incest content. So the porn studios produce it on demand, then release it on their platforms for the hoi polloi. I forget who was talking about it, maybe Joanna Angel, but they were saying it's all being driven by a relatively small number of big spenders and financially the studios are chasing that money.
it also kinda just requires a line or two of dialogue added to vanilla stuff so like why not go for that market if you can
or at least that theory makes sense
Epstein happened. Payment processors started cracking down on content with know keywords for CP. so the industry adapted and started releasing content about siblings, which just happened to be of characters who lived with their parents and usually references them being in school or doing homework.
I visited a porn website a few days ago and can confirm: There are a fuckton of seeds everywhere.
"oh no i can't make rent this month"
kills landlord
tops the landlord's dad
There's a lot of "I can't make the rent this month" porn cliches out there right now. :capitalist-laugh:
It's actually all a plot by Big Dryer to sell people on the idea of machines with larger doors.
It's actually a very complicated 4d consumer products safety campaign to educate the public on the dangers of commercial appliances.
