It makes my blood boil.
I cannot overstate the horrors I would commit if it would get the United States to enact China’s exact policies.
9/11 every week. I understand that lockdowns can suck, but anyone complaining about periodic lockdowns to prevent spread do not understand the horror of the United States right now. Having a government that functions makes it hard to even fathom how bad it is when it doesn’t, the downsides don’t seem possible.
If China had followed :amerikkka:’s covid policies how many people would’ve died, 4-5 million? If you want to remove those policies, I want you go down a list and pick which 5 million people will die. Oh and the 50 million who’ll have long term disabilities due to long-covid, don’t forget to pick them out too.
Which makes the US' reliance on non-neutralizing vaccines from Pfizer even... something-er.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/25/covid-omicron-boosters-arent-very-effective-against-mild-illness.html
Headline:
Omicron boosters probably aren’t very effective against mild Covid illness, but will likely prevent hospitalizations, experts say
Right below:
The study did not look at hospitalization, but experts believe the shots will provide strong protection against severe outcomes.
Cool, just uncritically parroting the people who've been initially incorrect 90,% of the time thus far.
Don’t forget the impact and strain on China’s medical system.
If you want to remove those policies, I want you go down a list and pick which 5 million people will die.
Americans consider the old and infirm an economic liability. The "Boomer Remover" was unironically considered a Good Thing when it wasn't happening to your immediate friends or family.
This is just eugenics by other means and Americans would be more than happy to single out 5M Chinese people to agonizingly execute given the opportunity.
By the end, we'd only be sad the number wasn't larger.
This is just eugenics by other means
america never stopped loving eugenics
If China had followed ’s :amerikkka:'s covid policies how many people would’ve died, 4-5 million?
5.25 million. (1.412 billion Chinese * 372 excess deaths per / 100k people in the US.)
Probably higher though, since the worst areas for covid deaths in the US are the poorest, and rural China is still very poor.
China's population is more urbanized than the US's I would expect more than 5 million if they enacted the US's policies.
there are still more than 2,000 people dying of COVID in the USA every week
Likely much MUCH more. Look at dates like Novemer 11th on NYT's covid death charts.
You'll notice we dumped about 12k deaths on that day. That day alone brings November to at nearly 3,000 people dying a week. We've had over 20,000 people die officially in November. That's bringing it closer to 5,000 a week. They're trying to hide it and it's STILL bursting from the seams. It honestly feels like I'm losing my mind. People act like I'm talking about conspiracies when I explain why I can't do X or Y. These are official numbers! This doesn't even account for long covid, a thing that studies continue to show is AWFUL and affecting A LOT OF PEOPLE even when they're vaccinated. I don't know what to do anymore.
I'm just wearing my mask as much as possible. not much else I can do as an individual without coming into direct conflict with the state
Yeah, I'm doing the same. I'm still isolating completely (mostly go out for doctor's appointments or blood tests). I'm immunocompromised though, so I have to be extra careful. My autoimmune diseases are so hard to live with already, I'm not sure if I'd be able to see the value in life if I got even more long term symptoms from long covid.
Yeah but those are the poors and the weak, who I don’t care about despite calling myself a leftist.
I just want my treats.
The lesson I’ve learned from the Intercept crowd (broadly defined) is: Journalism is like the most petty bourgeois profession ever.
Hence the horror of social media deluding so many people into thinking that they are also true journalists single-handedly saving the world by not even posting but adding a fucking flag in their handle.
Journalism is important and necessary when done to “speak truth to power” like when exposing corrupt officials and corporations.
But it’s just propaganda when done to serve the imperial interests.
Xi, sir, they're growing in bunches
Yes, I know. I had my hunches...
If I were Xi, first I would make a nice sandwich, then I would take a little nap
I thought Xi was supposed to be genociding a hundred trillion billion people. Now they're mad that he isn't killing enough?
If I were Xi
Stop.
You can never be Xi.
He has the task of leading 1.5 billion people to socialism.
You are a western journalist bankrolled by a billionaire. Call out your elites in government and capital.
Stay in your fucking lane.
COVID is a bioweapon. I don't have any evidence on hand that it was created, let alone created as a bioweapon, but it's pretty clear that the West wants to use it against China like they used smallpox in the Americas. Let it rip through the population and kill millions to preserve white hegemony over the globe, with enough plausible deniability for liberals because you don't need to bomb a country to make it sick.
The West is dousing themselves in gasoline, lighting it on fire, and asking the Chinese guy next door to please let them in :elmofire:
It's functionally a bioweapon when Western powers decline to do anything to prevent spread and just buy vaccine doses which don't prevent infections.
The same abundance of caution that lead to the initial success with mitigating the disease as compared to, especially, the US, will also mean they're slower to resume activities that have been put on hold. PRC probably did dodge the big bullet (mass fatalities) with their pre-2022 lockdowns, I don't think they would have ever approached the per capita casualties the US saw if they'd ended most restrictions at the end of Q1 2022 like most of the West did.
The questions that are still up in the air are around "long COVID" mostly. Personally I would not be surprised in the least if the initial vaccines deployed, which only conferred spike protein subunit (S1) antibodies for the variant isolated in Wuhan in late 2019, are biting countries in the ass now. Hoskin's effect or immune imprinting (wiki) are real, well-understood phenomenon that human technology cannot currently overcome, it's why flu vaccines falter during years where vaccines are deployed for other more isolated pathogens that share an evolutionary history with influenza. We already basically know it applies to SARS-COV-2 (well, of course it would, it's a coronavirus) because of a well done Italian study where subjects with memory B cells for a couple of endemic seasonal alphacoronaviruses (NL63 and 229E) had worse COVID-19 outcomes controlling for other factors - so we know that a vaccine series which creates S antibodies and hampers nucleocapsid (N) antibodies (page 23: "(iii) recent observations from UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) surveillance data that N antibody levels appear to be lower in individuals who acquire infection following 2 doses of vaccination") is going to lead to worse outcomes eventually once the pathogen is sufficiently mutated from the original version that was being targeted in the vaccine.
Every cracker eventually lets you down, no matter how based they seem at first.
It's the official Hexbear position on the subject. Except for me, of course, the one true leftist here.
"If I were Xi, I'd get a bunch of people killed for no reason." Wow, guess you fucking suck ass then, huh douche?
If I were Xi, I'd know what it's like to lead the only extant Socialist world power in its struggle to not only grow and compete in the world, but to resist the power of gobal capital itself and maintain a system of governance capable of perpetuating this kind of leadership.
But I'm not
Exactly. The sheer arrogance of saying “If I were Xi” fucking boggles my mind.
Good thing Xi doesn't care what you think. You'll have to satisfy yourself with exerting influence over your own democratic government's covid policy... oh wait
Exactly. Change your own “democratic” and “free” country.
It's just an agitation talking point. There's no rhyme or reason to any of it.
Public unrest hitting some critical mass, presumably.
But the degree of discontent is always amplified in western media such that its almost impossible to gauge anything from a bunch of China Watcher haters.
Have you considered how many burgers they could buy before they died though
