Well it clearly should have killed even more cuz most survivors immediately became freikorps and then nazis.
"Ooh the youth of yurop was extinguished in the mud in a senseless infight"
Sadly not all of it, and I don't want to even think what would have looked like had they pointed their armies only outward, 100 vietnams but 50 years early
Picking an imaginary fight with people who died a century ago lmao
I was angry about the ones who survived the war and became freikorps, and then remembered the phrase "WWI brought the horrors of colonialist wars back home".
Anyways, I phrased it that way for comical intent.
I thought that was WW2? Also don’t forget the french and the brits immediately started killing africans, asians and arabs again lol
Yes exactly, I don't see how WWI wasn't a typical colonialist carnage but at home. It had less genocides I guess.
I mean, I guess the difference is german/british/french armies hadn't met against armies with machineguns, gas and planes before.
It had less genocides
looks at the balkans and middle east just before and just after
Oh, in WWI too? Fuck
I knew about the Armenian genocide, but not sure if it's directly linked to WWI, besides being done by the Ottomans
ottoman massacres of non-turks were fueled by ethnonationalists who only got more humiliated and empowered as the ottoman position collapsed due to war(s). so it was based on revanchist nationalism boiling for a few decades but escalated due to ww1
the post-war division of ottoman territories had the british & french & multiple minorities scrambling to carve pieces off what'd become modern turkish borders---when the french & greeks lost this is when the most severe phase of ethnic cleansing began & armenians were practically erased from greater armenia & cilicia, and greeks were kicked out of western turkey.
Bulgarians killed a lot of serbs, also like muslims slavs all across the balkans
Understandable, Argentina did win the world cup after all. Gotta celebrate how you can.
the empires were dying anyway as landlords and capitalists proceeded to kill their hosts with escalating extraction.
Similarly the British left India because by the end they had actually spent more money on soldiers, bullets and repression than they ever managed to steal from the sub-continent. American police budgets can attest racism ain't cheap
Just because the imperial powers robbed the world doesn't mean they weren't stupid enough to lose money doing it
because neoliberalism worked out some of the kinks and realised that local capitalists and aristocrats could be more included in exchange for enforcing the rule of international capital. Thus reducing the costs of empire
In good news the Chinese are offering better rates to Africa and the European banks are increasingly being pushed out of Africa. In bad news as the contradictions sharpen the empire will become more vicious as it's back gets pushed against the wall both at home and abroad
why did the german army come home thirsty for the blood of german workers, while russian troops came home sympathetic to socialism?
because the German state more effectively mobilised to crush socialist dissension earlier because of their more modern infrastructure and security services
WWI was bad because it was senseless and just for economic/political interests, unlike OUR WARS FOR FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY TODAY :so-true:
I did have an argument with someone who claimed that the soldiers in WW1 died for freedom at which I had to incredulously ask freedom from what
Idk man mass death and trauma is bad in general.
Fascism when it travels abroad: "Oh cool! Look at all these cheap treats!"
Fascism when it returns home: "Shit! Fuck! I don't like this anymore!!!"
:fuck-around:
You can only call it Fascism if it affects the imperial core otherwise it's just sparkling colonialism.
There wouldn't even be a WWI if Europeans hadn't colonized the rest of the world. Because Europeans had colonized the world, the rest of the world had to be involved in an otherwise generic European war. That's the real tragedy of WWI. A bunch of colonized subjects died for the sake of some inbred European royal.
The best thing about WW1 was how many royals it ended up killing. An entire generation of bourgeoisie dilitants doing the full Leroy Jenkins into mustard gas and machine gun fire.
:charlie-kirk: Hey European Royalty
If your right to rule was ordained by god so much, then why didn't it protect your skull from some peasant manning a Vickers MG?
they for the most part avoided dying in it though and got the poor to do it instead
I understand people tend to focus on tragedies closer to them, but this is really only true up to a point. And that point to me is how much you can empathize or even just educate yourself on the suffering of others.
This struck me earlier this week as I was watching "Handmaid's Tale" (not really by choice). The entire show is just CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS WOULD HAPPEN IN THE US?! PEOPLE ARE GETTING IMPRISONED FOR NOTHING AND LIVE IN FEAR! Meanwhile at the same time I've been reading up (coincidentally relevant to you, RNAi) on the military dictatorships in Chile and Argentina in the 70s/80s... all that horrific stuff happened and a lot worse. And the US fully supported it! None of this happened in the mists of time centuries ago, but nearly within the lifetime of millenials today. Try bringing up US support for these dictators to US Americans, and 98% will have no idea what you're talking about. And the remainder who aren't leftists will think it's cool that the US supported fascist governments that murdered and tortured tens of thousands. Explain to US Americans what happened and they'll either tune you out or get angry and defensive. Anyways death to America, as always.
Colonial subjects also fought in the war for no good reasons. Indians were enlisted and sent to Africa to fight
have you considered that maybe the financial ruin and getting people used to violence and death might have contributed to the material conditons that caused fascism and the freikorps.
Also a significan't number of them became Communists notably so in Russiaa
Fantasizing about murdering millions of nazis isn't that bad imho, not productive either, but seems like in the "let people enjoy things" section. The Nakam dudes didn't genocided germans, but rather actually went on to do israeli apartheid, so it's amazingly fitting to compare it to this post about WWI victims turned freikorps.
Again, genocide is bad, etc
