Can we just get an open source free vaccine ffs instead of being beholden to shadowy big pharma groups like Pfizer.
Moderna said that they would not take legal action against anybody that copied their recipe, and then refused to elaborate on the actual process to make it :shocked-pikachu: Thanks for that
china, North Korea, Vietnam hacks into their databases to improve their vaccines
:wojak-nooo: NOOOO YOU CANT DO THAT!!! YOU HAVE TO ASK THROUGH OFFICIAL CHANNELS SO WE CAN DENY YOUR REQUEST ANYWAY!!!
I'd still sit down and let them vaccinate me for three hours like a tattoo appointment. The cardiovascular damage from COVID also carries a stroke/PE/MI risk in addition to every other way it damages the tissues receiving blood through increasingly smaller vessels and the Russian roulette odds of long COVID. Big nope.
Well…that’s not good.
Both because of the stroke itself and the incoming chud response.
Reuters be like;
Lemme just pour some cesium-132 impregnated napalm directly on the anti-vax cluster fuck.
This is exactly the kind of article a responsible media organization does not publish. They know that this will be picked up by every anti-vax freak on the planet as evidence that the vaccine killed their family, their friends, their dog, them, and jesus. No one is going to read "one database flagged a small but significant suspicious correlation that merits further investigation" and actually treat that with any nuance or understanding.
Couldn't they wait til this is actually studied then write an article about? Rather then push it out now with a pretty inflammatory headline..
He was talking about Reuters not the medical researchers or journal. Routers chooses not to publish things all the time and not publishing something because it might not be fully substantiated yet and may cause public panic is perfectly in line with journalism ethics.
laypeople don't read scientific journals. Sure some antivaxxers will link to it in their facebook rants which your average person will not read. Being on routers and other mainstream media is what gives mass exposure and credibility. The problem is that the antivax line will gain traction but it won't lose traction if and when futher studies show the opposite. Noone reads retractions or reevaluates previous information, the first thing published is either exclusively believed in perpetuity or believed in additional to later better information in a state of cognitive dissonance. Best path is to publish the most accurate information when a more complete picture it is available than every development which will lead to all manner of misunderstandings.
Even if accept the idea that it has to be written on at this stage, which I don't, the story can wait until the information is looked over better, we still have the problem of how much better media needs to be about making it clear in their headlines that it shouldn't be a concern right now and even if the problem is real it's going to be very rare.
It sounds like it isn't even a study. It's some kind of medical records system that popped a flag bc a certain threshold of people in a certain group had a certain medical issue.
How many got strokes during that 3 week span that didn't get the vaccine?
Some quick maths tells me that 40000 Americans would normally have a stroke in that period. This won't become a stroke epidemic. A 0.024% risk of stroke in the vaccinated elderly population sounds like better odds than catching covid unvaccinated
You could get it from an arrhythmia secondary to long covid, say new afib that throws out a thrombus and hits the brain in one of the many stenotic arteries up there from poor diets - none of which may be an individuals fault which is why it's so maddening, actual good health requires revolution.
We're any of the people who had a stroke tested for covid antibodies from a recent infection?
From the link to the CDC:
- A large study of updated (bivalent) vaccines (from Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna) using the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services database revealed no increased risk of ischemic stroke
- A preliminary study using the Veterans Affairs database did not indicate an increased risk of ischemic stroke following an updated (bivalent) vaccine
- The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) managed by CDC and FDA has not seen an increase in reporting of ischemic strokes following the updated (bivalent) vaccine
- Pfizer-BioNTech’s global safety database has not indicated a signal for ischemic stroke with the updated (bivalent) vaccine
- Other countries have not observed an increased risk for ischemic stroke with updated (bivalent) vaccines
Although the totality of the data currently suggests that it is very unlikely that the signal in VSD represents a true clinical risk, we believe it is important to share this information with the public
I'm gonna agree with @Frank and say that this headline isn't responsible.
