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pour one out for two recently-banned power users
Removed by modi dont have much nice to say about u/liberalsocialist so i wont say much, but their presence here was entertaining and ill miss having their posts that were rich with comments
our loss of u/ides_of_merch however is a true tragedy. i was always so excited to see their BMF-esque posts, they were perfect. they got banned for sectarianism but i think it was a misunderstanding :(
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She just got banned? Wow. I didn’t know that. You’re telling me now for the first time. She led an amazing life. What else can you say? She was an amazing poster. Whether you agreed or not, she was an amazing poster who led an amazing life. I’m actually saddened to hear that. I am saddened to hear that. Thank you very much.
BMF always returns and they'll have a new banger of a name when they do
Wait they banned @LiberalSocialist ?
I wonder who is the biggest lib left around here is?
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Me lol.
But tell y'all what, if I sense my time has come. I shall go down in a blaze of Pumpkin Spice glory. Hanna-Barbera accounts and all.
I'm dying to know the context behind that photo
Edit: The straws! Are they plastic straws? Is that the lib ownage???
Yeah, it's a slab of beef, plastic straws, and classic filament lightbulbs. :frothingfash: MOLON LABE
I was about to ask if that was beef. The light bulbs threw me for a loop, I assumed they were powered by electricity generated by burning coal or something
But for real, I just emptied out the contents of my lungs in one long tortured groan. Conservatives are so fucking stupid, literal toddlers
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I always thought she was just drinking from a cup with too many straws, this is so much funnier
It was militant levels of performative treat defending of plastic straws, older less efficient light bulbs, and le epic meat.
If that same stunt was done now it'd involve a gas stove and maybe sexier M&Ms. :awooga:
Yeah it was plastic straws and Liberals wanting to take away their hamburgers or some shit. IIRC AOC had some quote that mentioned hamburgers when talking about plastics and the republicans went batshit.
It was wild, even for the republicans. I wish I could find the video of a hog going off on how Stalin's dream was to take hamburgers away from Americans.
It was fucking gold.
Stalin’s dream was to take hamburgers away from Americans
Well he knew he couldn't do that, have you ever seen anybody eating hamburgers with a spoon? Laws of physics don't allow that. It's why he stopped at Berlin. :theory-gary:
wish I could find the video of a hog going off on how Stalin’s dream was to take hamburgers away from Americans.
https://twitter.com/ChrisMurphyCT/status/1101211111947423744
found one. I think there is even funnier one. But I am done searching twitter for the year.
Ah man, at long last. I was waiting for that sanctimonious little lib to finally chew through their supply of good faith. Always acting like the kid in kindergarten who would kick you in the shins, then run and hide behind teacher's skirts. "I don't know why some people here are so mean to meee, I'm just asking questionss:kitty-cri-texas:"
Ugh. Good riddance, redditor.
libsocialist? more like libsanctimonious!
seriously tho, they started so much shit here and since they seemed somewhat genuine mods would protect them. but how could you keep defending them after theyve started their 15th struggle session?
how could you keep defending them after theyve started their 15th struggle session?
Easy: power dynamics
idk why they keep criticizing that one argument
Repeating "power dynamics" over and over 100 times is not an argument
I get that he repeated it, but it was a valid (if annoyingly repeated) point
I enjoyed "AOC is literally doing what the unions told her to do"
yeah i just looked through their post history :hahaha:
i underestimated how much they posted (277 in 4 months). im surprised how many of these i missed, i liked keeping up with the libsoc saga. how could i have missed a libsoc gem like "was MLK a liberal?"
yeah and theyre good for consistently correcting the ideas of comrades [insert quote from combat liberalism]. but one person constantly inciting them tarnishes their reputation, i know whenever i saw their name as the poster i would take them a bit less seriously. if theyre genuine, they will come back under a new acct and have a fresh start, i think that will be good for them and the community. if theyre not genuine theyll just get banned again :ban-hammer:
Fair enough, I’m honestly not too familiar with the specifics in this case. Agreed that flaming/bad faith responses where people aren’t really reading or even trying to be responsive is poor content. Ok google add a spilled popcorn emoji. Delete text delete don’t send
BMF being banned is part of the hexbear life cycle, so it's fine.
just like a healthy pine forest ecosystem must undergo periodic burns to maintain stability and biodiversity, hexbear must undergo a periodic BMF banning to maintain a diversity of communist tendencies
(also the use of controlled burns by humans to prevent wildfires that pine forests eventually burst into was first used by indigenous people)
maybe you're just doing an irony but ides_of_merch was BMF. No one else posts like that.
i thought they were a writing style expert able to perfectly mimic BMF
They keep getting banned for sectarianism and just come back with a new account posting in that unmistakable style, it's just a core part of the entire BMF phenomenon by now. The original BMF account was also banned for the same reason and there were one or two between that and ides_of_merch afair.
oh lol, so they actually do dislike anarchists? bc the post they got banned for this time had no other anarchist criticism other than using the term "anarcho-neoliberals" which i assumed was just a joke. they should prob not blanket hate all anarchists if they want to keep posting in communist spaces
Damn, is it not socially acceptable to hate on anarchists here? Good to know
For reasons
hating genuine ancoms is legit sectarianism. i know a lot of libs claim the mantle of "anarchist" but there are plenty of real anarchists on hexbear who are valuable members of the community
I think it more that we can argue and debate in other online spaces, but this is like a refuge for far-left anti-capitalists. We're here just to help weather the storm.
i agree completely. but i think the best strategy is to try to maintain an understanding with everyone who agrees that capitalism must be ended. and a lot of reddit "anarchists" have reactionary ideas and have a nonsense understanding of AES states, but there are ancoms here who respect the achievements of socialist states and they offer reasonable critique that doesnt rely on western propaganda
thats true. but we still get lumped in with patsocs despite our protests. left unity first, if there is a practical reason our tendencies cause us to split so be it, but we dont even have a party to split
lets just get along with our anarchist comrades :left-unity-3:
edit: i kind of misread the 2nd half of ur comment. i just wanna say i 100% agree w you
Even though this is a majority ML space it's still meant to be left unity
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goodbye everyone, I'll remember you all in therapy!
Is this username a reference to a certain other username from :reddit-logo: ?
I get this question quite a bit.
Yeah that'll be my fault, sorry about that.
:marx-guns-blazing: I can't be stopped. Marx and Lenin were the most powerful posters in history! I'm just following their example!
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On the contrary i toast our authoritarian stalinist modteam for the forthright and swift use of the :ban-hammer:
dont get me wrong, i love our mods for keeping the community healthy and mostly wrecker-free. its just sad to see em go
There was a good portion of time where I legitimately believed they were a ChatGPT bot. However, my current hunch is that they were a Destiny redditor, probably not ever a wrecker, but too young and too online to actually know anything, because there were multiple instances where somebody would point out that many of the the topics they posed were on the Destiny subreddit a couple days prior to being posted here. There is also a strong possibility that they were a Hasan redditor, as they carried a great obsession with posting about how cool and important Hasan is.
Definitely not a current/former CitationNeeded listener, Chapo listener, 4channer, nor a former resident of r/cth.
It's definitely a good question and a reason that, imo we should be allowed to have those off-topic conversations and meta-comments in those threads. Why not actually use those 'drama' threads to discuss that kind of stuff, where the algorithm pushes 'everyone' to see it? But I digress into possibly bannable material. To get back to the question you posed, pretty much what is, generally, agreed on by the PPC (PowerPosterConsensus) is that Parenti has uncontroversially the best takes on the nature of neoliberalism, communism, imperialism, fascism, and the nature of propaganda. I'd even go so far to say as even most of the anarchists on here agree with the majority of what he says. If there is one thing we agree on its that social democracy is basically the left-wing of fascism. As such, I'd basically say spam Parenti at them until they either leave or read it and ask questions about it.
oh yeah they were a harry potter fan lol. i just looked through some of their post history and :agony-shivering: "was MLK a liberal?" was a legit post title
but still id say 50/50 that theyre a wrecker or a liberal with good intentions in the process of unlearning wester propaganda
“was MLK a liberal?” was a legit post title
I think this is a legitimate question based on the narrative we receive in public education, the recuperation of King into the national pantheon, and the kind of hopeful rhetoric King uses in a lot of his speeches about the US living up to its failed promises. He was a legendary speaker who knew exactly how to frame circumstances in a way which implicated the very core of the nation's liberal ideology. Effectively saying, 'by your own logic, we deserve nothing less than prompt and comprehensive liberation.' It is pretty cringe to call him a Liberal, because doing so obscenely reduces his stature. But I also don't think it is fruitful to play tug of war with his corpse on social media trying to claim him. It is about as productive as the people who run around saying Jesus was a socialist.
The man was an organizer above all. He organized with radicals as well as liberals. What he notably didn't do was throw more radical figures like Malcom X and Kuame Ture to the wolves in order to appease the liberals, even if he personally held a less radical position (hopeful of reconciliation). Liberals love to hold him up as champion of non-violence, but King never blamed the oppressed for taking up violent resistance either. He spoke about it with lament, but as an inevitable result of the ongoing circumstances. It is a fundamentally different position from liberals today who will turn you over to the cops at an anti-cop protest for busting a window. Worlds apart.
I still lean toward good intentions. I've seen more sus people than them on this site, sus track record and posting history and all, but won't name names.
I think LibSoc just flew too close to the sun and doubled then tripled down on a body shaming insult that really wasn't worth it.
What was the book? I have a feeling we read it in elementary school if it what I think it is.
I believe LiberalSocialist meant well and had their heart in the right place and I saw the banning posts they made already after they were gone.
I didn't like where those posts went but I am still sad about the ban. :sadness:
I think they were the most successful wrecker the site's ever seen. Make a post saying some ridiculous, hostile, :jesse-wtf: bullshit and double and triple down until you've got a big ol' struggle session on your hands, then pretend to be sorry about it just enough to not get banned, then come back 2 days later and pull the exact same shit again. Gets a lil sus when it happens for the 7th time in a row.
There's other plausibly deniable tactics too.
One of them is saying some incendiary hostile bullshit and then logging that username out, and after that some dormant accounts that hadn't posted in a few weeks can show up and continue what that first post said and expand on it, doubling and tripling down to spread around the damage so it's hard to determine who to ban.
Oh yeah, plua their most indefensible bullshit would often never fail to eventually garner exactly 4 up votes :thinkin-lenin:
Libsoc helped me remember that even though this place is one of my favorite spots on the internet, it is still not to be taken too seriously.
I would get some responses with the weirdest, contrarian takes, and I would get flustered and mad that someone had misinterpreted my point or why would someone postsnything that horrible... Then I'd look at the username and realize it was Libsoc, and just accepted it was their weird brand of posting.
They seemed incredibly young and I was (and still am) hopeful their politics will grow as they experience and learn more.
Based on their argument style and the substance of their rhetoric, it will not unless they actually have to work a shit job for years at some point in their life. There is and always was zero materialist analysis behind any of their posts, existing only within 'socialist' liberal moralizing and ultimatums.
Funnigui posting for sure, but not coherent or leading to coherency in any sense. Zero meta-analysis or actual understanding of how people and systems actually function within the real world outside of their imagined headspace. The labeling of being opposed to being hyper-online as 'boomers' is really the icing on the idealism cake (after-all boomers are even more hyper-online in only interacting with content than gen-z, i.e. their taking over of Facebook). They will only ever post, and all posting does is feed the ravenous content beast inside your soul. Ever hungry, never learning.
I believed that for like the first three or four fights but there are only so many times you can stir the pot
