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54% of young Americans are splurging on luxuries such as groceries and need to learn how to cut back of frivolous expenses
But also, please do not stop buying frivolous items or else the entire economy will collapse.
You only need one ration of Soylent to be a happy and productive associate of your loving company!
Anything more than that is wasted money and time you can better use to invest in yourself!
you and 39% of Americans apparently https://finance.yahoo.com/news/alarming-39-americans-skipped-meals-120000123.html
It's only their biggest issue because they've all already had to move back in with their parents.
I go to the grocery store and tomatoes will be randomly $7? And next week it's something else. It's like a rolling brownout for the economy.
I heard a great point recently about how the Soviet Union was just willing to accept shortages and not try to obfuscate them. The current model of distribution will not permit shortages to be obvious, so the failures of the supply chain will just take the form of things randomly being obscenely expensive
The way we stock our grocery stores with the expectation that a third of the food will just go to waste is unbelievably unsustainable, but it's a hell of a marketing gimmick. Feasts and cornucopias and all of that used to be special because they were rare - but in America we show you that image over and over until it becomes your expectation, and not surprisingly Americans wind up consuming way more than other cultures do as a result.
People need to stop expecting every fruit and vegetable to be available fresh year round. I shouldn't be able to get fresh berries in the middle of winter.
Fresh fish too is such a killer. I’m sorry, but do not buy seafood if you live in the Midwestern United States, especially anything live or fresh. Frozen is slightly better, but even then think of what goes in to making that happen.
The Midwest has the great lakes. Too bad we killed a lot of the stuff in there.
Local is always going to be the best option, so it is a shame we absolutely devastated local environments to ship food halfway across the world
All of the seafood in the Midwest has been frozen and thawed back out at the grocery store. Fresh fish in the Midwest and even near the coast is a lie. 85% of all us fish consumed is imported, and it was frozen before it ever got into US territory. Many fishing boats freeze them on ship, even. The only way you can chance upon "fresh" fish is if it's in season and near the coast you're buying in.
Maybe, but Iceland is surrounded by ocean filled with fish and most people live on the coastline. That’s much more sustainable than buying live clams/ fresh fish from a chain grocery store in North Dakota
Just you said the Midwest. And whilst Iceland is surrounded by water, it’s competing on the global market.
Hang on where is the mid west? Presumably not the middle of the western world…
The Midwest they are referring to is a region of the land-locked interior of the united states. Generally refers to the states in the region comprising of: Nebraska to the West, Minnesota to the North, Ohio to the East, Missouri to the South, and those that lie between.
Oh. Seems like it would be wise to say “mid west US”…narrows it down slightly.
The region is actually called "The Midwestern United States/The American Midwest" but longform is so out of fashion these days
Well, Europe is in the middle of the west, roughly. Iceland is one country I can think of that is dependent on fish.
I see where you are coming from and that’s my bad, I’ll make the term more specific.
I was using a colloquialism common to the United States which refers to a group of landlocked areas hundreds/thousands of miles away from the ocean
They had 3 wars against UK for fishing rights. Won all three too, since they threatened to quit NATO and USA immediately reprimended Brits.
We’ve fucked ourselves over with fishing rights, there was no point.
When we were doing Brexit, the pro Brexit politicians got the fishermen on their side. But they’d sold fishing rights to Europe.
As i see this Brexit was one hell of a hoax. Sure, fuck EU but from the outside of UK it clearly looked as because EU was not neoliberal and imperialist enough for them.
Most westerners are of an “me first” attitude. You seriously expect them to accept the fact that they just can’t have something?
They're going to have to if anything is to be done about climate change. (I do not expect anything to be done about climate change.)
Same. I’m sure the rich will be fine, until it becomes obvious they’re utterly useless.
many certainly are cucked by their political economy into believing with absolute certainty, despite all evidence to the contrary, the current and wildly unsustainable configuration is all that's possible.
pretty sure if they can swallow "Trump v Biden = democracy" and "no money for healthcare, infinity money for war" they can wrap their minds around "no vine ripe tomatoes in January".
We have Labour versus Conservatives. I have no sympathy. Sorry.
no one asked you to. you stated westerners can't accept limitation, and then I pointed out how they do, constantly, and with great ease.
sorry you're having so much trouble keeping up with your own argumentation.
What the fuck is the deal with butter too btw? That shit used to be a dollar per pound. Now it’s 6-8 dollars on any given week AND cows are starting to catch the fucking bird flu.
Historically, food insecurity has been the revolutionary straw that breaks regimes' backs, even in the most repressive regimes. Wall Street is playing with fire here. We all know about the "peace, land, and bread" slogan, and you can be damn sure that it was the "bread" part that most caught the attention of the peasants.
That's the thing about Rome's bread and circuses - they worked for like a thousand years.
It's becoming more and more real to me that just about everyone is one bad paycheck away from poverty. It sucks so much.
But like, at least they had actual famines (due to a myriad of material reasons like kulaks and technological limits) so there weren't any actual food to distribute, and that was what, 60+ years ago?
There's plenty of food around now, but you just can't have any...
I have an incredible deal on rent in NYC and shop very conservatively for food. Why do I have to pay almost 30K a year, not counting any other living expenses, to just eat the bare minimum food and sleep in the bare minimum accommodations? If you gave this info to somebody living in the Soviet Union they wouldn’t even believe you because it sounds like such unbelievable bullshit that it surely would have to be propaganda.
Coupons aren't even as effective!
I snip and cut away, use their stupid apps
And somehow only manage to save like 3 dollars????!!!
For me the issue is that coupons are often for brand name items and the coupon rarely makes it more cost effective than buying store brand.
There are coupons for store brand items too- Which I use as well
Though store brand items tend to already have a reduce prices anyways.
Why pay 6.79 for a box of 8 pack quaker oats instant oatmeal when the store brand has instant oatmeal with the same number of packs for ~4.50
I would just get the steel cut oats in the tub. They’re better for you than the instant shit and on a per serving basis are usually cheaper.
My grocery stores used COVID-19 as an excuse to permanently remove their bulk bins. The closest store to me that still has them is a 90 minute ride on public transit, with two very timing-precise bus transfers. And I still need to walk about a mile on top of it.
I think you misunderstood me, I’m talking about the like tubular tubs of generic oatmeal that’s in the oatmeal aisle at the store. It’s pretty much the same as in every store I’ve ever been in America. It’s not a special bulk bin item that I’m aware of.
Oh, they don't sell those here anymore, either. Or at least, they've transitioned exclusively to only stocking premium brands that are gluten free organic carbon neutral oats that the farmer read poetry to, for twice the price.
This is an example of what I’m talking about https://www.walmart.com/ip/Great-Value-100-Whole-Grain-Old-Fashioned-Oats-42-oz/10314925
I know what you're talking about. They aren't in the stores near me anymore.
Additionally, many times the store brand is manufactured by the name brand anyway.
Pretty sure it is some STEMlord's job to ensure the coupons and couponing apps are designed with precise calculation in order to not benefit the consumer in the long run but only appear that way.
Don't stone me but we have a decent amount of disposable income and the prices have sort of made me move away from coupons and circulars anyway. If chicken breast is 6.99 / lb. and fucking wild Alaskan king salmon is 9.99 / lb. I might as well just get salmon. When we hit Weimar inflation the extra money in my account isn't going to help me and I'll be grateful for the Omega-3s when I need to brawl in the streets for bread.
But I was told that inflation was gone and that the economy is going great?!
Inflation may be lowered but no one ever said anything about bringing prices back down
That’s the thing. Deflation never happened and wages were never adjusted, so the impact of inflation just stayed and is still slowly increasing
Inflation only affects the rise in prices, once the price goes up it never goes back down.
Please heed our call Mr. Kelogg. People are demanding sawdust-enriched cereals.
CW Joke about meat
spojler
An inspection from the Sanitary and Epidemiological Station came to the pâté factory.
The inspector asks:
Is this hare pâté really made of hare?
Yes. Well, to tell you the truth, we also add a little horsemeat.
What are the proportions of that "a little"?
One to one
Which means?
… One hare, one horse.
Thank goodness the rate at which calories get more expensive has gone down. Surely a reduction in how fast things get expensive means that we can now afford them despite their prices not getting lower.
you could maybe afford food again in 5 years when high prices get offset by wage growth. Thank me later
Don't worry, the global extreme poverty line is still stuck at a realistic-grounded-in-reality $1-2/day according to very serious people doing economic "science", so if you're above that you're good actually.
It's groceries sweetheart, how much could it cost a week, $350?
the thing that everyone absolutely must have to live on a daily basis is a huge concern for those people now that the price of it is increasing rapidly?
news at 11
My favorite thing about this dystopian nightmare we all exist in is that during the height of the pandemic, food costs basically tripled over night FOR NO GOD DAMN REASON.
It's called inflation. It's like the weather, it just happens and have nothing to do with greed. Maybe you need to learn basic economics 101.
ummm i am very surprised the majority are not saying HOUSING COSTS.
But that's probably because a lot of people are just having to keep living at home with their parents forever. which i guess leaves food costs....