I feel sorry for kids being in a panopticon during the years most of us are at least a little cringe, but holy shit Imagine being this guy.
On one hand, ask the kid what he thinks about women and see if you still feel sympathy. On the other hand, the system failed by allowing him to be brain rotted with Tate-Tok.
I try not to blame kids. Their whole thing is not knowing anything until we teach them.
i know it's easy to do it but man social media has genuinely fucked with developing kids brains so hard. like the kid is going to have a tough reality check eventually discovering that saying you're "alpha" isn't going to get a person far or liked. the teacher handled it very well though, didn't even really raise his voice at all and gave no leeway in hearing out that shit
Teacher handled it like a pro. The other kids are gonna rip him a new one after this as well I'm sure. He just stood up in front of an entire class and showed his whole ass. He's gonna be rightfully torn to shreds
No one is immune to propaganda. It seriously scares me how quickly and easily some younger minds absorb that ideology under pretenses of self help/improvement.
They don’t have family beyond the nuclear family and there’s nowhere to go after school. The fake man on the computer’s all they have left.
If a high schooler in all black came up to me and started saying this shit, I would assume that he's going to pull out an AR15 out of his backpack
Chances are this isn't the first time this teacher has dealt with this kid. He seems more fed up than anything else.
What really upsets me about this is this kid sounds like he has a learning disability of some kind. What grifters like Tate do to these young boys with vulnerable minds is fucking predatory and disgusting. Fuck him.
Like I'm not letting the kid completely off the hook accountability wise but this situation absolutely makes me more mad at Tate then I've been before.
I can see this. Another user brought up the scenario of the type of bully that bullies via proxy e.g. encouraging a kid to do some stupid shit because it's based and will make him popular and then having everyone else laugh and record it
He could also just have a speech impediment. I know a guy in the higher levels of academia that talks like this.
Imagine a world where IEPs included speech therapy. I can find a lisp or a stutter endearing, but I know for a lot of people it's a huge source of embarrassment and social anxiety. If there's a term for the manner of speech he's using I don't know it, but I have heard it a lot from almost exclusively guys, and most if not all seemed to have some difficulties with socialization. I'd be curious to know if there's a casual connection either direction there, as I could see how having fewer face to face conversations, especially in early development, would make it harder to learn to produce the full range of sounds needed for speech in a natural and comfortable way. And how likewise having difficulty producing speech in a natural and comfortable manner would make one shy away from interactions requiring it.
So...do kids just like never kick the shit out of other kids now? You could not have that attitude, especiallypaired with that voice and not have had it physically removed by getting fucking swarmed on a daily basis. You would know to keep this kinda shit to yourself by high school. You'd be a disruptive dumbass in a different more acceptable way, but this is too cringe.
lmao yeah the entire video I was sitting there like "the alpha is going to get tripped by someone in the lunch room" but then again, a lot of the bullies growing up were also the kind who would absolutely love a kid like this. Bullying via encouragement, like sarcastically calling them 'the alpha' and convincing him to stand up in class & be a dipshit and the kid not picking up on it at all.
That was me, I was that bully. It was a rare type when I was a kid. I was also a non nerd brand weird kid that was kinda hard to place by those who attended my fancy classes cause I was a smart boi
Yeah I had a number of friends who were those bullies. We both know the alpha is going to wind up stumbling into some jock or dude who never leaves the mechanics/ag & has never interacted with the alpha, who is going to blink when the alpha tells them to apologize & subsequently cause everyone to have to go to a 2hr long school-wide assembly about bullying when he gives the alpha a public wedgie at 8am on a wednesday morning in front of half of the school.
Or there will invariably be a recreation of that classic Simpsons scene with the monkey knife fight with two dweebs when their daily alpha karate/misogyny demonstration in the corner of the courtyard gets heated one day over something inscrutable to the rest of the school.
I graduated high school in 2009. Alpha weirdos were simply not a thing. I was a skater kid who became a pink rocker soon after but was in a placement you either had to be smart enough for or buy your way into and I was the last of the ones who weren't bought in by then end. It was proto bros wall to wall for the most part who were dramatic and gossipy as fuck, so I'd just toss some bullshit in the mix for a gag every once in a while. I didn't like any of them so it was sorta being Bender from breakfast club style bullying. Also the 'jocks' couldn't fight worth shit and all they all bussed in to the schools in bad neighborhoods that these AP things were done in for probably dumb political stats reasons. I lived in these places and hung out with the scary kids that did normal school. By high school I was taking weeks out to tour with punk bands and play bars and shit. It was more not liking anyone I had classes with, being a sarcastic and deceptive little shit and not fearing any retribution cause they'd get felonies committed against them if they did.
It also made me their only weed connect later cause no other white kid was allowed to.
Yes. Teenage rebellion is almost always a tiny baby child trying to assert themself over an adult who is informing them of the rules that apply to everyone by throwing a temper tantrum.
Hey, I organized Students Against War and got kids to block recruitment booths and stuff. Did solidarity walk outs during teachers strikes etc. What you're saying is true butnit cuts both ways. If you're also a youth it's easy as hell to organics with nothing else to do.
You can be an activist as a teen, and that's good. That was very awesome of you.
But most of the time, teens fighting back is just being an overgrown 5 year old who doesn't want to learn math or take a nap.
Late reply, I don't disagree at all, but if you are a teenager on the ball, you can really harness that energy.
My academic training is failing me and I’m blanking on the name of the theory but in sociology - specifically the study of political movements - we have a whole codex of demographic factors that make a person more or less likely to take part in disruptive political action. Namely it comes down to how much do you have to lose? and naturally the youth are a lot freer in their considerations because they haven’t had time to buy property/start a family and all that
No one is immune to propaganda. Kids in my local school district all too often idolize him, even see him as a martyr that is "so based that they put him in jail for being too based." :doomer:
That’s tragic. Do you think the educator handled it well?
I think so. You don't want to play into their hands because they're trying to rile you up with inflammatory comments. Just act cool, indifferent, and tell him to go back to his seat or we call his mother and have the big alpha dawg explain to her why he'll be getting an F
Probably just as well as the dude in the video. If a teenager pulled that shit on me in that kind of environment, I'd be really dissapointed in the kid and wonder how to maybe try and undo some damage. I'd be sad to see it but as far as any confrontation goes, I'm sure the average adult educator has dealt with way worse.
I meant educator who is an adult and not someone who educates adults to be clear. Although it's probably true for both.
Although it’s probably true for both.
From what I've experienced and according to those I call peers, it is. :doomer:
Brutal. I found out you can just like, go sit in on classes and talk to profs for free whenever you want where I am, you just can't get a degree from it and since I wasn't gonna do more education to get a job or whatever, I didn't really need the piece of paper telling me I'm a good boi at geography or whatever. I miss that stuff being able to be my full or at least main focus but the environment made it harder to learn. I can just read the source material and then ask questions about it later.
Having seen and done both, arguably adults educating adults have it a little easier because the adults are voluntarily there.
I worked the kitchen for a college cafeteria as my first Job. I sold drugs prior. I was 20 or so and fuck it made me lose scoop much respect for college. It just seemed like more high school
Edit: I feel like my geography/social studies (one class) and French (separate class and it was French immersion) was the best teacher and what I would have wanted. He'd give us an entire unit of test, so like 50 pages and we had a month to answer thst stuff. He'd be up there grading shit cause he taught a lot of classes so you could go talk with him and otherwise he booked all the new laptops the school had thst no one used and let us go to the library whenever qr wanted and if you did t show up or so the workz sucks to suck. Our end of the year thing was doing an essay about the fundamental nature of competition and he took me aside and said mine was one of the best things he'd read and it changed his mind on the topic and my 17 year old idiot ass made a 58 year old French opera singer go from libertarian to Marxist before I had Eben looked into Marx. It felt really awesome.
Also having done French immersion since primary, he was rightfully shocked and mad as fuck to find out none of us were good at French and hadn't read any French literature or been exposed to French cultural stuff and he got really mad, not at us but our previous teachers for half asking their jobs cause he genuinely gave a fuck about the stuff he was teaching enough to get mad about it. This scared most other people but I loved it, he was equally passionate about geography and did a whole thing about ecological history that was for sure nothing the curriculum. Just pure no bullshit, you're here to learn, here's info, read up on it, I'm an expert and I'm right here, come ask me whatever but find shit out for yourself. It was perfect for me specifically and sucked for everyone else.
I try not to be too judgemental of isolated peeks at another educator's day. Outside of extraordinary red flags, every teacher has bad days where there's not much they can do.
Having 3 on hand is still pretty interesting. Like, there aren't 2 ready to go in a drawer or whatever and they look like 3 different flavors. Maybe it's the perfect blend to counter the spray on deodorant and be a cool teacher like this guy seems to be and cover the weed smell.
This thread is giving me so many high school flashbacks from replying. This reminded me of my film multimedia teacher who is totally the guy that spiked the chowder ofnthe titanic wrap party with pop caught me smoking weed before his class and just said 'I wish my whole class was stoned." And moved along.
Late high school was pretty hilarious for me. I'd piss off for weeks to tour with punk bands and just kinda talked to all my teachers early on in private and just kinda brokered deals with them thar my attendance would be spotty but I'm not here to make their job hard and will enough done to pass. Also my last year was just ap English, multimedia which was like flash animation and 3d rendering stuff and a film and video class, so it was stuff I was already really good at.
Oh, I also was in a similar social circle to my math teacher in grade 11 and we'd often drink together in weekends.
So I mean this in the best way, but whats. Late 20s maybe early 30s something teacher doing hanging out with teenagers drinking?.
The drinkings cool, the teacher joining in Is sending some red flags tho
He was friends with my partner at the time's family. That family was all math majors.that eeked out money playing poker and he came to some parties of theirs I also would attend. Nothing sketchy.
It was pretty funny running into each other having both done acid and we both had a bottle of whiskey and being like "so, I'm supposed.to learn shit from you on Monday?" He was acrually genuinely a math genius and acid got it going and he'd there explain the Mathematica behind something cool and it was only time I did really well in math. I went from 60s to consistently acing everything.
Just remembered that I also had an English teacher that gave me her entire giant collection of Sci fi novels at the end of the semester and also once she found out we lived nearby would give me a ride to school and we'd talk about trek. Learning how to be grinds with my teachers is maybe the most important thing i learned. You can skip so much bullshit in life by just being nice and decent to engage with.
I'm Ferris Buelwr but by just like, talking to people and not by being a monster.
Maybe it’s the perfect blend to counter the spray on deodorant
Man you're lucky if they are actually even using basic ass Axe spray
and the larger, more powerful man charged him $50 bucks so he can hear how special he is lol
I gotta hand it to him, saying all this cringe stuff is in fact pretty damn alpha
How many people would have the balls to do this
