https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/30/biden-black-voters-00160520
“Low info” (black) voters just don’t know about all our great policies. This is a “communication” issue.
Democrats really are so fucking stupid. It’s never them that are wrong. It’s always the stupid voters
I love how this basically gives up the game that the only real activism these people believe in is voting.
Like we know you’re not going to be fighting for us; you never have before!
Could? Any
thread you see of minorities calling on Biden to quit being a genocidal freak will be littered with bluedog freaks telling those minorities they look forward to Trump doing terrible things to said minorities
It's corny to say but it makes me think of EL-P on the RTJ4 album.
Funny fact about a cage, they're never built for just one group So when that cage is done with them and you're still poor, it come for you The newest lowest on the totem, well golly gee, you have been used You helped to fuel the death machine that down the line will kill you too
Until the Dems address the different attitudes of black people based on class and faith he will bleed black support. The black people the administration touts like Amanda Gorman, Symone Sanders, Kamala etc. are a world apart from the middle and lower middle class black people in cultural attitudes, concerns, etc. When I seen irl how everyday black people speak to someone black whom they think is high upper middle class, there is so much distance between them it borders on no solidarity. Makes sense, since while most black people have had a relative in jail or have been in jail themselves, this applies to only 1/3 of college educated black people.
Unless you are a black humanities major from a college town a lot of broad brush "inclusivity" stuff falls on deaf ears, and when you finger wag at your base for antisemitism or even LGBTQ+ discrimination it's completely alien and unengaging to the average black American. A lot of black people even lean toward anti-PC attitudes, and there are shows like those on the Zeus Network made by/for middle class black people to mock inner city and poor black people in the same way that white supremacists and "telling it like it is" comedians mock. And that's not to mention the schism between Carribbean/African immigrants and black people descended from American slavery.
Basically, Dems at the top often have an unnuanced view about the black community that literally makes the party come off as more out of touch with that community than some Stonetoss Comics/Groypers. They need to actually honestly look at intracommunal relations and the warts and all of Black Americans and find a galvinizing message. I hate seeing Dems hedge and give into the right wing's framing on DEI/Affirmative Action type programs as "racist handouts" rather than proudly vowing to protect them for black people in a non-condescending way, cementing their necessity but also allowing some to opt out. I hate how white Dems are just looking for the right set of catchphrases to memorize and chide fellow whites for not reciting right, rather than finding rousing and reactionary-triggering comments that shore up support.
Black American groups that don't feel any kinship with one another WILL rally together to support Dems when the party's policy and advocacy are right. Hell, a lot of the anti-woke/anti-PC black people online started fighting fiercely with the crypto racists whom they usually align with, when it was announced that the next Assassins Creed game featured Yasuke--a real black samurai exemplifying welcomed black representation. If this Ubisoft reskinned slop marketing team can figure it out, and the Dems still collapse their black vote percentage this year, then they are losers and suckers just like the troops.
The monolithic treatment of a massive group of people based on nothing but skin color is racist and reductive. Latinos get it too. They should try giving a shit more often than every 4 years instead of pandering.
They don't even have the temerity to pander! They got mad at Trump for being distasteful for putting his names on the stimulus checks that hood rappers are still praising him for, while the plan Kamala released to uplift black neighborhoods was "a student loan debt forgiveness program for Pell Grant recipients who start a business that operates for three years in disadvantaged communities."
And speaking of Latinos, it was such a wakeup call to me when Trump's Latino support shot up in 2020 BECAUSE of his border policies, since they created a ton of enforcement related middle class jobs for Spanish-speaking Americans living near the border. Like it couldn't be clearer how material benefits override any lip service solidarity.
Many Latinos also harbor right wing political beliefs. These would be overridden by meaningful material benefits but of course under democrats these are non existent. How anyone would be surprised by the steady erosion of support from this "reliable democratic voter base" is beyond me
I think the Biden campaign outright said that Hispanics were not part of their path to victory in 2020. The Dems also spinelessly gave in to conservative framing about border crises and jettisoned a policy that was popular--pathway to citizenship, amnesty for Dreamers/those who have been here forever, but more inflow controls. The old ass Dems didn't trust the American people to grasp nuance and overlook the "open borders" panic even though most people are pretty humane about undocumented immigrants even while nominally against them.
It's funny how dems will mock Republicans for calling a dude from Paraguay a Mexican and then also treat the Latinos (except the Cubans!) like they are a monolith. What the hell, guys.
in bidenland if you say "he hasn't done anything" it's just met with incoherent screeching, so people have given up trying to convince the diehards of this and are going for the gentler "people haven't heard about all the things he's done" then letting the diehards walk directly into the pit of trying to lay out his accomplishments in a way people won't immediately gut-dismiss as hot air
Yup saw a comment on reddit saying you might not like him on Palestine but if you like unions weed or green energy it was a no brainer.
The person who pointed out that he personally broke a strike, weeds still federally illegal and were producing more oil than anybody ever got heavily downvoted.
Democrats campaign message is literally "don't believe your lying eyes"
Democrats have bought-in fully on the notion that the Rail Strike was a tough-negotiated victory for the unions. They got a few days of sick pay! The rest is handwaved or forgotten
Nooo don't ruin my nice little box with the material reality! I already put him down as good on these issues, it doesn't matter what he's actually done for them!
Excuse me, you didn't hear about the student loan forgiveness for 12 people in Wisconsin? Or those $600 checks (down from $2000)... or the "Inflation Reduction Act" that totally, definitely worked?
You're welcome
Whether it’s material conditions or lack of communication, the democrats have shown they fail at basic political tasks. Why should anyone vote for people who can’t even play the game right?
They don’t lack at communication, they dominate the information space and media. All the Democrats do is “communication”. “Communication” gripes are an excuse for why they need even more money to waste on consultants. Anytime someone opines the problem with the Democrats isn’t their policies but their “communication” they are a DNC shill shithead
Dems are just going to keep on repackaging "Biden's done a lot about x, people just aren't hearing about it", huh? I skimmed the entire article and didn't see one thing Biden has done.
Yeah but have you seen all the POC police clearing the homeless camps and busting up protests? Dark Brandon wins!
There are things that Biden supporters can point to. The problem is the list is very short, because he's unwilling to take strong executive action and he's hamstrung by a broken Congress.
Also the fact that anything he can point to is overshadowed by the genocide happening with his support.
So like, discharging less than 1% of college debt is something. But it's not a lot. And the people who might be willing to make the case that it's better than nothing, are a little bit too disturbed at the genocide happening with our tax dollars to make that argument.
No it's worse than that they're lying about his accomplishment and saying he's great for unions and environmental issues.
President Biden doesn’t owe you anything. But if you
go to churchcampaign for him every week andprayvote, he’ll answer your needs.Joe Biden alone has stopped Russia from doing a Modern Warefare 3 style takeover a Europe, so write that down
It said sometjing abouy funding for HBCUs, which sounds a lot to me like pork for rich admins, with marginal benefits for upper middle class students and nobody else
I'm sick of this "they just don't know about all the great things (dem canidate/party) has done!" "Its a messaging problem/information gap."
These ghouls are the one suffering from an "information gap." The message being sent to them could not be more clear
I'm going to float an idea here, but maybe if you have a "policy achievement" and I am unaware of it then it isn't an achievement.
Im halfway tinfoil convinced that the Dems are more than resigned to losing. Applying the idea that the system's point is what it does would them make this pieces point an early derel8ction of responsibility by the Dems for the election should they lose.
I think, truly i do, that they are ambivalent. If they win, great! If they lose, donations to campaigns they can run on promises alone is a great side bennny
it was explained to me that having the support of Jim Clyburn, the 83 year old man at the top of the extremely gerrymandered 6th congressional district of South Carolina, was effectively the same as having the support of all people of color in the united states.
this was why Bernie Sanders had no chance at winning the general election in 2020 despite winning the first 3 primaries and we had to go with Biden (who had won zero primaries), because Biden had the support of Clyburn, the most powerful DNC power broker in South Carolina... which is like boasting about being the best bullfighter in all of Belgium.
are you implying that being a potent gatekeeper for the convoluted primary process might not translate to broad electoral support?
“When you tell people ‘Here’s what the Biden administration has done,’ particularly related to issues the Black communities care about, people are really surprised”
Funny haw the article never tells you what these issues are then. I would imagine that's very relevant to the gripe repeated 40 times in the article
Don't these fucking idiots know what we're doing for them?? The fuck are they complaining about??
bro I swear to god if people just knew about the tax credit, they'd forget all about palestine and the price of groceries and how unobtainable housing is
It's always pretty funny to me to see articles talking about how the Biden campaign just isn't doing a good job communicating what he's accomplished and then they don't say what he's accomplished. Like, come the fuck on. And the thing is I know he has actually done some things that are good and don't get mentioned ever. So yeah, they are genuinely doing a terrible job of campaigning even on their own terms, which are of course totally out of touch with what he electorate wants and cares about. I really am finding it hard to believe that they want to win at all. It's been misstep after misstep since before Biden was even inaugurated. What was the first visible thing democrats did after the election? They cut a chunk out of the check you were getting and tried to weasel out of admitting it. It has been that same tone and function ever since for everything they say publicly.
This piece complains about a "lack of communication" about bidens accomplishments and then goes on to list precisely none of them. Are we to suppose it's a case of not wanting to because theyre not worth mentioning or is it more a casually racist assumption by the writer that no black Americans read Politico?
Even if that were the case, Politico readers would still benefit from knowing them. Maybe the concerns of black voters are not ones they want to address, and talking about them just makes their job more difficult
Yeah you're right. it's probably just that style all writers seem to use these days, where they detach themselves (and the reader) from the subject as if neither has anything to do with The Problem
Listen Jack, heres Bernie Mac to explain that Republicans won't make student loan debt any less whack, with the Inflation Reduction Act for infrastructure we have a fat stack
Now that I've rapped vote for me