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The old internet is dying, and a new one struggles to be born.
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Know a guy that doesn't use an adblocker because "they need to make money" and it just seemed like such a deranged take. Your life is worth so much more than watching the same fucking ads for 5 minutes out of every 15.
My sister is a really weird case. She doesn't buy into some dumb idea of "ads are good or anything", and she finds them annoying, but when I tell her she should install an adblocker she will just... not for some reason. Like it takes literal seconds to find ublock origin and hit install. I've even offered to do it for her but nope. I just don't understand it. Kinda tempted to just install one for her some time when she steps away for a few seconds, doubt she'd even notice.
i think broadly there is a fear of computers. like, we have been trained to feel anxiety that something will go wrong if we interact with computers in any way that is not officially sanctioned by power. this is the main psychological barrier that stands in the way of liberated computing, not any objective qualities of FOSS' user-friendliness vs that of proprietary software or how computer nerds treat non-computer nerds.
100% this because I have experienced this myself. Always felt strange as a kid if I had to use Libre Office because MS Office always seemed more "official" and I had a huge fear that Libre Office would somehow mess up all my homework.
A lot of people seem to have given up on learning the most basic technological functions that aren’t scrolling on a phone. Not even trying to be condescending or snarky. I’ve met so many people who just say “I’m not good with technology” or “that’s too difficult” when I explain the concept of an adblocker in the most basic terms or when I explain to them what an add on is and how to install it.
They just assume technology = hard and automatically reject all information about it. Some of these people are much smarter than me as well, like in the medical field.
I get this a lot too and as the resident "IT guy" for a lot of friends and family you'd think they'd take my advice but it's like they develop some kind of pathological demand avoidance when I start suggesting ways to unenshittify their experience. Like its one thing if I was trying to cajole them into installing arch linux or whatever but come on dude how have you never googled "how to get rid of ads free" in the last twenty years?
My sister does everything from a browser and wasn't interested in an ad blocker when I mentioned her trying NewPipe.
i got a 15 second unskippable ad on a 2 second video of mc ride screaming at a moth
fuck youtube and its ads
Uploaders in the partner program can earn a share of the ad revenue, but Youtube retains the right to put ads on channels that aren't in the program. the main requirement is having 1000 active subscribers.
I can understand if it is a partner that you like a lot and you want them to at least get some money (idk how much)
YouTube will still take the majority of the money, you'd do better to just pay for their Patreon or whatever if all you wanted was to give them money.
a friend of mine recently screenshared a youtube video he wanted to show me and an ad started playing and i was like "bro you need to install an adblocker" and he got legit offended by it. and he was like "i want to support the people i watch" and i was thinking "thats not how it fucking works you idiot" but what I said was "ok then it's literally one button to disable it when you want to watch ads" and he got even more offended.
it's like ... it's not a personal choice situation, it's simply the incorrect choice. it's like unprotected sex. if you browse without adblockers you're an idiot. fucking stop it.
why not just buy Youtube Premium if you believe that? you don't have to watch the ads and they get their "needed" money.
The person in question does have an indeterminate amount of head trauma from a car accident, but he's also blue MAGA and would totally vote for Hillary again so idk.
They might be made to change their minds on adblockers after they finally get a fake ad/notification from scammers that will most certainly convince them to give remote access. But it is really weird that they wouldn't just pay for Premium if they actually cared to support the channels getting money (as many of them might fall astray of random ad supported money). Or they could actually subscribe or tip the channels. Though many seem to be inserting their own ads anyway. So if they watch creators that are getting paid sponsorships AND also still watching YT's additional ads, then it is just clown face time for that person.
I'm slowly withdrawing from new media because I can't stand the fucking ads. I'm pretty much only read, listen to audiobooks, and listen to music, because they're the ONLY media left that isn't absolutely infested.
I'll just use adblockers that block the anti-adblocker measures. if they win that arms race ill just download videos using vlc and bypass the whole youtube ui, login, recommendations, and so on entirely.
that would probably result in a better experience for me anyway so fucking try me nerds
if youtube really makes unblockable ads then i will write a program that detects when an ad is playing, and sets the device volume to zero and places a black rectangle over the video until the ad finishes
Just wait until they make you respond to a quiz that asks you what happened in the ad you just watched to make sure you watched it lmao
When's the perfect time for a delicious bite-sized pizza snack?
A. In the mornin'.
B. In the evenin'.
C. At supper time.
D. All of the above - with pizza on a bagel, you can eat pizza anytime!
Screaming McDonald's at my phone until it plays the rest of the video
As big tech is stagnating or collapsing, they still seek to scrape out as much profits as possible
Pretty sure Youtube is just growing. It's a website with zero competition in it's main business and the streaming business competition is just killing themselves.
The reason it has no real competition is because it's really hard to make money off of video hosting. I don't know about more recently but historically Youtube has just lost money due to the enormous data hosting costs of all the 3 views no subscriber videos that are uploaded every day
I mentioned PeerTube in a different comment, but it’s based on the same ActivityPub protocol underlying Lemmy (Reddit) and Mastodon (Twitter). PeerTube is the same thing but as a YouTube alternative.
One neat thing is that videos are seeded by peers, rather than hosted from one mega server. So the cost and control is distributed among many participants.
It’s cool to think about the implications of easy and decentralized video platforms. Already some official organizations are using ActivityPub for video sharing, like the EU: https://tube.network.europa.eu/
doesn't this really only work if many people are watching the same video at the same time?
They're actually doing this because they went from no competition to losing revenue to TikTok
They've said this a few times in the news
I bet they've been paying very close attention to Netflix gaining subs after locking out other people from using the same account and decided the population is a bunch of dumb pay pigs.
“In cases when viewers feel they have been falsely flagged as using an ad blocker, they can share this feedback by clicking on the link in the prompt.”
Ah yes, Youtube's reputation for responding to content creators asking about their own videos is so good that I'm sure they'll have sufficient staff to handle false adblocker flags for non-paying, non-creating users.
EDIT: In case that instance is frelled: https://github.com/TeamPiped/Piped/wiki/Instances
EDIT 2: Or better still, use Invidious. some instances still work there, unlike Piped. Sorry about that folks. https://redirect.invidious.io/
A comrade recommend newpipe when I was looking to download yt audio. I have been using it for all yt stuff since. Goated app.
to whoever that megaposter was.
I'll use it till it dies, like I did with the original vanced
Is revanced fucked now as well? That's how I've been using youtube for like a year now.
I'm not going back either way. If revanced dies, I'm either gonna find another workaround or just stop using youtube as much as I can.
I will simply stop using YouTube
(I have already reduced my usage by 98%)Yeah I guess it's a little different but there's a few yters I like that put their stuff on nebula and it's ad free. I paid $30 for a year
Yes, it's "creator owned", from what i can tell, half the money goes directly to content creators based on watch time.
honestly i'll probably get a lot more done if i'm not spending so much time on that site. thanks comrade youtube.
This just creates an arms race.
Youtube blocks people with adblockers? Ok. Let's put a front end on youtube then just the same as we do with twitter. No ads.
It's ridiculous. It will only work out in the short term for them, new methods of avoiding ads will propagate.
Oh and for those of us that just don't bother at all? You also lose us as people who would have shared that content elsewhere. Anyway two can play that game, I will add youtube links to be automoderated out of every community I mod.
