You are not Winston. You are not in the Party. You are a prole. The party doesn't give a shit about what you think, do or say. The only exception is if you pose a meaningful threat to the Party. In which case, the Republican-Democrat Party, the Capitalist Party of the United States of America will threaten you, disappear you, etc, etc, just like they have done to every threat in American history.

  • ComradeRat [he/him, they/them]
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    4 years ago

    It's actually pretty good. Orwell bad and all that, but you can really easily break libs by pointing out the west is already a 1984esque state under capitalism.

    • NotARobot [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      I also thought it was pretty good when I read it, but for me it was mostly just because I was so used to seeing dystopian societies in fiction that get brought down by teenagers that it was neat seeing one that was actually competent.

    • SteveHasBunker [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Orwell was a garbage person but he did have talent as a writer. Part of the reason people can get through the ham fisted political messaging in 1984 is that it’s very readable, as is Animal Farm.

      His non-fiction is actually a fun read, and he’s very good at describing misery and melancholy, they guy was also just an angry miserable git who through he was smarter than everyone. Yah know like most writers.

      • CommCat [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        Orwell was a racist, antisemetic and homophobic, besides ratting out Communist and fellow travellers. Beside each name, he also noted that they were Jews, homosexuals and in the case of Black activists like Paul Robeson, he labelled him "anti-white". You know who uses the term "anti-white" nowadays, the far-right white nationalists/supremacists, and they love Orwell.

      • ComradeRat [he/him, they/them]
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        4 years ago

        setting aside the issue of Stalinism, Orwell sold out a lot of comrades to the government. Orwell bad

          • ComradeRat [he/him, they/them]
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            4 years ago

            Fuck if I know. It's a damn long list, and I don't really care if they supported Stalin. You don't send the police names. Here's the list if you wanna look through it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orwell%27s_list

            • gammison [none/use name]
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              4 years ago

              He gave those names while in a sanitarium for late stage tuberculosis. Don't forget that either. He was pretty out of it by the time the people looking for the list showed up.

            • notthenameiwant [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              Steinbeck and Chaplin are the only two I recognize. Kind of shitty on his part.