Apologies for the delay but here they are. As per usual, if your pronouns aren't in the list, please comment them here and I'll see that they get added.
UPDATE: “Undecided” and “None/Use Name” have now been added.
Apologies for the delay but here they are. As per usual, if your pronouns aren't in the list, please comment them here and I'll see that they get added.
UPDATE: “Undecided” and “None/Use Name” have now been added.
What's the deal with cat/boy, cat/girl, cat/enby?
Someone requested it and I couldn't tell if it was an ironic request or not since "cat girl" is something terminally online trans gals call themselves, lol. Worst case scenario, it's a cool trans in-joke built into the website that'll show we're accepting of the transes, lol. :)
I don't want to be a jerk if those are actually someone's pronouns. It just seemed pretty close to the sort of joke pronouns we've said we're trying to avoid.
yeah we should really remove those.
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Do you NOT want to deliberately butcher the English language? What are you, a colonizer?
/joke
Also I am close friends with the person who suggested doe/deer and doe has used them for a long time, and it absolutely shouldn’t be a big deal. Sure it’s strange if neopronouns are new to you, but absolutely not something you should make light of.
This is not something new to deer, just to you. and if doe see this post all deer will see is their comrades calling deer ridiculous and I can’t imagine that’s feel very safe or welcoming.
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You don’t need to understand why, you’d never ask anyone else to justify their pronouns or identity. It’s just because neopronouns are new to you that they seem strange, like maybe how non-binary or agender might seem or feel when you’ve never been exposed to it before.
It’s not my place to explain for deer, but yes those are deer pronouns, and yes people refer to deer as such, as best they’re able to.
I don’t feel comfortable saying more because I am not deer keeper or speaker, but the point is yes neopronouns are legit and should be respected just as much as anything else.
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Why do some people need non-binary options? They don’t fit who they are, their identity, so they don’t feel comfortable within that binary. I don’t see a difference with neopronouns.
Also if you’re asking in good faith about and don’t understand this, why the hell would you set it as your pronouns twice.
That looks incredibly uncool from where I’m standing. Do you intend to mock?
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my response from up thread:
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I'm having this same discussion twice:
the key point is that people outside the binary have genders, would like to be gendered, and the existing pronouns do not meet the bill because they either refer to binary gender or are neutral.
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they make some people feel more comfortable. why do you need more than that?
Seems like a big leap from specifying gender to specifying species. Otherkin identity is not gender identity. Really going down a rabbit/hare hole.
why are you looking for excuses not to support your comrade wtf
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Open flair would probably be for the best.
Unfortunately that could lead to a lot of (Attaack/helicopter) and joke pronouns. If you actually have a neopronoun contact TC69 and she can help you get it set up.
Idk abkut you but doe/deer worked just fine grammatically. Sounds a bit like 'their'
Agreed
the cat ones aren't pronoun preferences as much as specifying a gender identity, which is 100% valid. the grammatical argument against them is pedantic and annoying.
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neither is "fawn" or "fae" but they get to be on the list
That was my impression, too. I get the reluctance to gatekeep, but some form of gatekeeping is needed to avoid the message getting co-opted or derailed. For instance, we have emojis from all different leftist schools of thought, but we're not putting up just whatever emojis are requested.
Did you just equate people requesting neopronouns to new emojis? lmfao
No. An example for comparison is not saying that the two things are equal. It's saying they are similar in some limited respects.
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What about cis catfolk??
it was from enver_hoxah who was a troll. I think you can remove it and add “Undecided” and “None / Use Name” instead ☺️
Thank you again 🙏
Eh. I'm not going to gatekeep. That's not my job, my job is to make people feel welcome and safe here. Unless it's painfully obvious they're trolling, I'm down for whatever. Who am I to judge people for experimenting with their identities, y'know? We're all just living in hellworld trying to scrape by.
I get it, but like the context of the catgirl gender request first had enver asking for “gadafi/ anarchist” as a gender. Did anyone else ask for it? 😕
idk maybe I’m over thinking this, but we have enough issues with educating cis libs to take pronouns seriously 🤷
Nope! I personally think it's cool having some ✨t r a n s c u l t u r e✨ built into the site. 😎
troll request or not idc, "cat/girl" is dope as heck and felt good to see on a dropdown. thanks everyone involved for implementing & using the new pronouns~
Same, I was cautious at first, but it's actually pretty fucking cool seeing a bit of trans spice built in, hahaha.
I like you because we can argue about shit and you don't get mad at me. Respect.
I try my best to keep a level head with everyone. Like I said, we're all in hellworld together. No need to make people feel worse than they already do.
💕
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I see you added a bit of ✨t r a n s s p i c e✨to your pronoun tag too. ;P
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doe/deer is one thing because the user was serious and could tell us how to use them but there's no way to put cat/girl/boy/enby in a sentence. It was clear those weren't intended to be real and I wouldn't even know how to refer to the person. What is it then ? catself ? girl/boy/enbyself? They're not pronouns in use by anyone and are actual joke flairs like you just said.
I'm nb and I do respect your opinion on it as you're also trans but to me it's kinda weird that you don't let people fill in their own pronouns to avoid them using it as a joke flair and then you add joke flairs intentionally. It's not consistent and trans people who aren't familiar with r/traaaa memes would think it was making fun of them.
the cat ones aren’t pronoun preferences as much as specifying an identity, which is 100% valid. the grammatical argument against them is pedantic and annoying.
yeah wtf
See comment below, lol.