call me transphobic or a boomer or whatever but I dont really see myself referring to anyone as a deer regardless of their want. I imagine I would more likely just not refer to them at all.
that is...transphobic to misgender someone because you don't see their neo-pronoun as valid. they/them is a neopronoun in the scope of things. at one point in english she/her was a neopronoun. you cant just be the arbiter of pronouns.
I'm going to jump off a bridge. We are never going to achieve liberation, the imperial core will forever be self-obsessed people that care about personal validation over people's liberation and we will be talking about fucking deer pronouns until the last drop of potable water evaporates or the last two "leftists" burn to death from climate disaster.
My problem is this is the western left. This is what we are. If we continue this way we will be rounded up and fucking shot and the immense suffering in the world will chug along until the last sucker gasps their last breath of air. This is an exercise in privilege that would make any self-respecting global south Communist execute every one of us on sight, myself included.
Calling Chapotistas the "western left" is perhaps too high a praise. What percentage of people here actually organize or act on their ideology?
No one using this website will be rounded up and shot because no one on this website is of political or economic importance. The most obvious leftward party in the United States is... the DSA. What does that tell you?
Why do neopronouns come before Imperialism and Capitalism? Is Imperialism not the primary contradiction in the world rn? I'm sorry but I'm a Marxist, my understanding of the world and the struggles we face is informed by dialectics. The order of priorities has been accepted for decades by Marxists that actually fight for liberation. If we have to wait for everyone to be comfortable using deer pronouns before we achieve liberation for the exploited masses we might as well kill ourselves now because it's never going to happen.
Gatekeeping the left over shit like neopronouns is the biggest gift to reactionaries we could give them.
STFU. Are you stupid on purpose? TALKING ABOUT PRONOUNS is not what is stopping "liberation". You are creating the problem by not using people's pronouns- you literally admit to not seeing yourself using people's pronouns. JUST USE PEOPLES PRONOUNS. you don't need to understand neo-pronouns to respect them. and FYI not being misgendered isnt about "personal validation" it is a serious and harmful action to misgender someone.
I don't misgender people, but you're wrong, it is about personal validation. Like you're literally validating someone's personal gender identity by calling them correct pronouns. Misgendering someone is about as serious and harmful as calling someone a fat fuck, it's mean and can probably do real emotional damage, but it's not the same as cops executing black men for reaching in their pocket or the military drone striking a hospital.
Please just log off and reflect or something. Something does not need to kill you to be important. Not having your correct pronoun used may not bomb or shoot you but it does serious mental harm- being invalidated isolates you and harms you. Affirmation at no cost to you is harmless. Why would it be harmful for you to just use pronouns as people indicate they want you to. Even if you don't get it.
Deer pronouns are doe/deer, and doe has used them for a long time.
It's pretty simple in this case for the most part, doe/deer can be largely used as she/her would. If you'd otherwise say she say doe, if you'd say her use deer.
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if you say so.
It seems weird to me that when asking for a means of referring to a person comrade is considered bad faith in that regard...
dunno about the comrade thing but doe/deer is the neopronouns used by one of our comrades on here, and should be treated with respect o7
edit: why downvote this comment, one which conveys only information and solidarity for a comrade? Wtf y'all
call me transphobic or a boomer or whatever but I dont really see myself referring to anyone as a deer regardless of their want. I imagine I would more likely just not refer to them at all.
that is...transphobic to misgender someone because you don't see their neo-pronoun as valid. they/them is a neopronoun in the scope of things. at one point in english she/her was a neopronoun. you cant just be the arbiter of pronouns.
I'm going to jump off a bridge. We are never going to achieve liberation, the imperial core will forever be self-obsessed people that care about personal validation over people's liberation and we will be talking about fucking deer pronouns until the last drop of potable water evaporates or the last two "leftists" burn to death from climate disaster.
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My problem is this is the western left. This is what we are. If we continue this way we will be rounded up and fucking shot and the immense suffering in the world will chug along until the last sucker gasps their last breath of air. This is an exercise in privilege that would make any self-respecting global south Communist execute every one of us on sight, myself included.
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Calling Chapotistas the "western left" is perhaps too high a praise. What percentage of people here actually organize or act on their ideology?
No one using this website will be rounded up and shot because no one on this website is of political or economic importance. The most obvious leftward party in the United States is... the DSA. What does that tell you?
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Why do neopronouns come before Imperialism and Capitalism? Is Imperialism not the primary contradiction in the world rn? I'm sorry but I'm a Marxist, my understanding of the world and the struggles we face is informed by dialectics. The order of priorities has been accepted for decades by Marxists that actually fight for liberation. If we have to wait for everyone to be comfortable using deer pronouns before we achieve liberation for the exploited masses we might as well kill ourselves now because it's never going to happen.
Gatekeeping the left over shit like neopronouns is the biggest gift to reactionaries we could give them.
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STFU. Are you stupid on purpose? TALKING ABOUT PRONOUNS is not what is stopping "liberation". You are creating the problem by not using people's pronouns- you literally admit to not seeing yourself using people's pronouns. JUST USE PEOPLES PRONOUNS. you don't need to understand neo-pronouns to respect them. and FYI not being misgendered isnt about "personal validation" it is a serious and harmful action to misgender someone.
I don't misgender people, but you're wrong, it is about personal validation. Like you're literally validating someone's personal gender identity by calling them correct pronouns. Misgendering someone is about as serious and harmful as calling someone a fat fuck, it's mean and can probably do real emotional damage, but it's not the same as cops executing black men for reaching in their pocket or the military drone striking a hospital.
Please just log off and reflect or something. Something does not need to kill you to be important. Not having your correct pronoun used may not bomb or shoot you but it does serious mental harm- being invalidated isolates you and harms you. Affirmation at no cost to you is harmless. Why would it be harmful for you to just use pronouns as people indicate they want you to. Even if you don't get it.
I think you responded to the wrong person, this isn't the person who said they don't see themselves using people's pronouns
Sorry!! My bad I meant to @Bread_In_Baltimore who had that shit take. Literally typed too fast.
I'm sorry, I'm fighting for my friend here and she for her comrade. Pardon me if I don't appreciate shitheads like this lad who invalidate deer.
OK, sure. Let's say I give you this one. Can you give me an example how I would use doe/deer as a pronoun to refer to a person.
Deer pronouns are doe/deer, and doe has used them for a long time.
It's pretty simple in this case for the most part, doe/deer can be largely used as she/her would. If you'd otherwise say she say doe, if you'd say her use deer.
Yeah fuck off with that :)
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The same problem would occur there, because they could just type it in themselves after seeing it same as go select it from a dropdown
how about we just bully people who do shitty things like use our comrades' pronouns as jokes?
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That's a good point I hadn't considered, and I agree