How can you watch these videos and think these peite bourgeois fucks are "working class"?
https://twitter.com/RealAlexRubi/status/1347314574614290435?s=19
HAVE YOU BEEN WATCHING THEM GET DOXXED ON TWITTER?!? Here’s a rundown of some of the the poor and alienated working class involved:
• Blaze Journalist, Alt right Streamer, Social media influencer • State legislators • Marketing account managers • IT specialists • General counsel for an insurance company • Small business owners who got PPP loans • A bunch of middle aged upper middle class white suburbanites • Insurance Salesman • Some Wall Street ghoul • Police • that one grandma waving the flag and looking like she was waiting for her guardian
Right, but it speaks to the character of the protestors. They are able to take time off of work, pay for transport and lodging, etc. this wasn’t disaffected poors... it’s people who are wanting to stay in power - white bourgeoisie
I'm sure that there were working class people mixed in, it is a numbers game and that is the vast majority of people. But being working class doesn't mean that you're a comrade. Do people think that the rank and file of the Nazis were made up exclusively of rich capitalists?
Someone simply being against the current order doesn't make them a comrade either, fascists have been positioning themselves exactly as that since the beginning. The Trump movement is dominated by domestic US capital and petty boug wanting to preserve white supremacy and their priveliged positions.
I think the distinction is though plenty of white working class may have loved to have been involved, but travel costs, time off, etc. make it more difficult for them where as a real estate broker from Texas can just jump on a plane and stay at the Hyatt and riot
Yep. White bourg, white petty bourg or white wealthy lumpen. Class reduction stays poison to our movement
people who have the time and money to roleplay being a slow-moving terrorist aren't ever working clas lol
this should be a very simple and obvious point but I guess I always overestimate people's logical faculties
nah the ones who stormed the capitol should all be gulaged. The only people who MIGHT(but probably arent) be worth trying to save aren't ready to die for fascism and wealth that isnt theirs. Those people are why things like the Red Terror are necessary.
One of the guys there was literally yelling about how they're business owners and they need Trump to support them. These takes are dumber than the actual Trump people.
He hasn't even done that. His avi looks like a tech bro in Napa.
Anyway, I wonder how well I could run the grift you described, but drag libs left instead of whatever he's doing. I have a drawl and rural roots, I just need the Carhartt.
as if the poor have the means to travel to DC on a Tuesday instead of working
I know incredibly poor people that regularly manage to car pool cross country to do similarly bad, politically oriented shit. It’s not like it has to be a fancy vacation.
That's silly. There were plenty of working class people in that crowd. Not to judge solely by appearances but more of them would fit in at a truck stop than a country club.
Lying to yourself that they were all petit bourgeoisie is as delusional as cable news anchors pretending they were all trailer park yokels.
edit: Do these dudes look like the upper crust to you? Guy on the right is one of the few working class dipshits to get doxxed but that's because he's also the only one, as far as I know, dumb enough to wear his work lanyard to a crime spree.
Pretty sure all three of those men have been identified and yes, they are all very much relatively economically priviledged actually. Including the laynard guy, like yes he technically counts as "working class" but definitely not "blue collar" like Alex says in his tweet. If they look blue collar to you, its because they're doing a good job larping that way.
Bill Gates in blue jeans and a pull-over can't possibly be rich.
Jeff Bezos uses a door as his table!
Elon Musk smokes weed just like us.
yeah idk how that comment even has 8 upvotes
my wigga is saying that having a beard and cosplaying means you're "working class". absolute pea-brain take
stupidpol
"they have beards and they look fat so clearly they're working class redneck truckers"
fr, these particular folks are far too gone. The only people I have any compassion for are the old grandmas.
The people who literally put their lives on the line for their big, fat, wet leader deserve gulag or wall depending on how far they got.
Everyone else second guessing Trump can still be saved 100 percent.
Yep, 10 months of a pandemic with $1800 of financial support from the govt and working poor in Oklahoma are totally the ones booking flights to DC for a political protest.
Also, more importantly, I suspect most working class people lack the sense of entitlement to think they could ambush a federal building without being arrested or killed.
If you could travel to DC you are most definitely not "blue collared"
-7DeadlyFetishes
Everyone out there had a sob story to tell all their friends, in order to justify this Custard's Last Stand bullshit.
And the media loves to play into it, to the point where you really would think a guy with six different rented properties and two million in stock generating dividends for him is classified as "middle class worker struggling to get by during COVID".
some dipshit dry snitches on himself on Twitter
"Why would the Left do this?"
lmao MAGA boomers are all suburban real estate brokers, car dealership and chain franchise owners, and yacht enthusiasts
Some of them were working class, surely. The fact that someone sells their labor for their livelihood doesn’t make them impervious to bad ideas.
Some of them were working class, surely.
Hanging out in a few hundred dollars of novelty cosplay with a dozen perennially online friends on the Washington Mall at 2pm on a Wednesday?
Doubtful.
This is just such a bizarre take. There’s this weird sort of idealism, like working class people are never involved in reactionary projects. If you subscribe to a Marxist view of class, the overwhelming majority of the population of the US is working class. It just means you sell your labor for a wage and depend on that wage for your livelihood. Again, surely that includes some of the people who blundered their way into the Capitol.
You wouldn’t be wrong to say that this sort of thing is based in a petite bourgeois layer, but working class people participate in petite bourgeois bullshit all the time. Like fascism would literally never work if movements were strictly delineated along class lines. That’s why the Nazis made appeals to socialist rhetoric, to mobilize workers/manpower for their project.
You wouldn’t be wrong to say that this sort of thing is based in a petite bourgeois layer, but working class people participate in petite bourgeois bullshit all the time.
If we're going to establish a definition of the working class as distinct from petite bourgeois, a good dividing line is measured in the time and resources necessary to engage in this kind of travel and performance.
Unless that mob all spilled in from Maryland and Virginia - rather than private jet - this was overwhelmingly petit bourgeois.
Like fascism would literally never work if movements were strictly delineated along class lines.
Events like the Business Plot and the Beer Hall Pustch were heavily weighted towards the members and extended families of the petite bourgeois. They are a kind-of vanguard party in that way.
If we’re going to establish a definition of the working class as distinct from petite bourgeois, a good dividing line is measured in the time and resources necessary to engage in this kind of travel and performance.
You could define class like that, according to that line you just made up for the purpose of your argument, or you could use the definition of class that Marxists have been using since Marx himself, which is based on roles in the productive process and relationships to the means of production / other people’s labor power. I’ll stick with the Marxist view, and not come up with an entirely new definition based on an article about 2 out of 20,000 people who took a private jet to DC.
