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  • QuillQuote [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    Among the many bizarre aspects of this episode is that I am and long have been someone who resides on the far end of the spectrum when it comes to trans rights: in favor of full legal rights for trans people, in favor of honoring their gender identity, and opposed to efforts to malign or exclude them, so much so that, in the past, when attacked on the rare occasions that I discuss this issue, it is almost always from people who oppose the core tenets of trans rights, not from those who support them. If I, with these views, am a bigoted enemy of the trans movement, then who are its allies? Do many of those who form this movement even want allies?

    Y'know, just a normal thing an 'ally' says about their allies.

    So often it seems like they are more intent on insisting that those who perceive themselves as supporters are actually enemies due to the slightest deviations from the full panoply of dogma rather than persuading their actual enemies to become supporters

    "Yeah u should be having civil discourse with the intent to convince and change the mind of the oppressive systems of the hegemony. Just walk up to the gears of capital and do a dialogue, duh

    Tell capitalism it should stop oppressing you cause that's mean, that's all you gotta do, stop getting mad at me, an ALLY. Shut up and be thankful that I deigned to support you! "

    ...

    :agony-immense:

    • MarxistHedonism [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      If normally anti-trans people disagree with me, but now the trans community is mad at me, I would re-examine what I said and ask questions from the community to understand what I did wrong.

      Once I understood, I’d apologize and thank people for explaining to me.

      That’s what you do if you unintentionally say something hurtful and legitimately want to be an “ally”.

    • CrimsonSage [any]
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      4 years ago

      I dunno about you but I sure feel "allied" by Glenn.

    • RowPin [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      The amusing thing about him invoking allies is actually, the majority of Americans who accept trans people don't engage with it outside of the level of tolerance and don't soak their brain in culture-war cortisol all day -- they have absolutely no clue what the decline of lesbian culture is or any of this other nonsense.

      Like, if you ever feel down about transphobia -- 49% of Americans in 2019 said that society "doesn't do enough to accept trans people". Imagine the reaction from anti-idpolers if somebody said that online, they'd call them an out-of-touch lunatic!

    • Pisha [she/her, they/them]
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      4 years ago

      His radical opinion that trans people are kinda okay is shared with most conservative parties in Western Europe lol