Source for the stolen image: https://fixvx.com/krystalwolfyalt/status/1732505768149008821

  • AbbysMuscles [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    sry sweatie the britbong video was too long and he's associated with a CRINGE subgenre so here's me screaming for several replies on why it's bad actually

    • Cherufe [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      "people told me I was a part of something called breadtube and also fuck you for it"

      -HBritbongGuy

    • RNAi [he/him]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      Sorry, the title is ironic, I gave for granted that everyone saw the video, or at least a sinopsis of it.

      • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        sinopsis

        I had a chuckle thinking about a synopsis of a 4hr hbomb video delivered by the Chinese Foreign Ministry.

        • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Sinopsis seems like a disease that a 19th century British dude would "theorize" about that was a special kind of sepsis that turns you Chinese.

  • Barabas [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    All I know about that Somerton guy is that he is very horny for nazis.

      • fox [comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        He argued that the reason so many Americans joined up to fight in the western front was to get a glimpse of those shirtless ubermensch they'd be fighting against. Never mind that the Germans were getting really rough by the time the USA showed up in the western front and also most US soldiers were drafted, and also you couldn't pick the front you'd fight in. And that the US bodybuilder movement comes from trying to create their own gorgeous muscular bodies to emulate the Germans.

        He also said Americans didn't get horny for Soviet men the same way because they all wore thick coats all the time. The Soviets. The world champions in broadcasting oiled up, muscular athletes doing feats of strength and dexterity.

        • FALGSConaut [comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          Americans didn't get horny for Soviet men

          I have photographic evidence to the contrary

          Show

        • barrbaric [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Also reinforced the "asian men aren't masculine" trope.

          Also when questioned, the co-writer revealed that he just made all this up with no source.

          • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            Also reinforced the "asian men aren't masculine" trope.

            This is how you know someone hasn't watched Olympic weightlifting in a long time.

        • BioWarfarePosadist [she/her, they/them]
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          1 year ago

          Todd in the Shadows... A goddamn music critic also did a Somertin take down, more of a "Here are the facts he got straight up wrong" video. One of them was "Hitler didn't kill Ernest Rohm because he was gay... It's because he was fat!"

        • RNAi [he/him]
          hexagon
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          1 year ago

          Yeah, the four hours video has like 20 min section about it

  • the_kid
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    1 year ago

    sorry but he wasn't able to convince me. maybe if the video was 6 hours or 8 hours. 4 hours just is not long enough to make a convincing argument.

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Hahahahah is this what it's actually about? I haven't bothered to watch the four fucking hour video of some people i've never heard about yelling at each other but friends seem to think it was entertaining.

    • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]
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      1 year ago

      https://youtu.be/yDp3cB5fHXQ?si=YMUmT6q9uPl2kn4O&t=12101

      Its actually quite fucked, dude is steamrolling over actual queer writers and thinkers, many of whom are dead or languishing in obscurity, guy is a fuckhead

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Is there like a 2 page precis? I don't know who any of these people are. I know Hbomberguy exists but I have no context on what he does or why people listen to him. Like I need some kind of briefing, here, to even understand what kind of context to put the context in to when i get some context.

        • SerLava [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          hbomberguy showed a lot of specific examples of blatant plagiarism from 4 or 5 very large youtube channels. They were basically just Googling topics every day, changing scripts/articles from "but" to "and" or "he went" to "he traveled" and then reading it off to B-roll they often also stole. Many of them were also just stealing entirely from one production, as in just recreating a documentary in its entirety. They were making hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars by stealing all this stuff. At that point it's less of "some rando" and more like a substantial media operation ripping people off

          The plagiarist stealing queer content was always getting compliments for great writing, and it turns out when they did a second pass on a script they got caught on, trying to change the words around a just a bit more, he was actually a dogshit writer

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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            1 year ago

            Thank you for the summary. I can see now what the concern is and why it is important within that sphere.

    • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I enjoyed it. It's rambling in terms of the overall thesis, but everything he says does have a purpose (that might not help the thesis but still means something).

    • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      It could have been a 30 minute expose, but instead, he pulled out a folder full of receipts and just started reading them verbatim into the camera.

      • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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        1 year ago

        That's the thing for me, by the time it came around to something I might care about it's already been 2 hours of shit I don't care about that is only sort of related. By the time it was getting there I was already tuned out.

    • SpiderFarmer [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I've been laid up with sickness for three days and I still can't talk myself in watching a 4-hour video.

      • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        As I was scrolling by, I read this as you saying you wouldn't watch it simply because "I've been laid", which, well, fair enough

        • SpiderFarmer [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Hmm, makes sense. I basically need to work 8 days straight with little sleep to put me in the headspace to watch a movie, so you may be onto something.

  • KittyBobo [he/him, comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    I identify with the plagiarism YouTuber. I also don't care about my job and see it as just a paycheck too so I do the bare minimum to make money. Like, unitonically, that's the system we have that incentivizes us to do the least work to get paid. I'll reserve my ire for cops and landlords, not some YouTuber who is ruining the sacred art form of YouTube content by phoning it in to get paid.

    Edit: I think I see what the problem is. I only watched the part about the pyramid head cartoon plagiarizing articles, I didn't even see anything about the other guy.

    • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Plagiarizing much poorer queer authors while holding up a pretense of original research and further misinforming people when you speak off script because you don't actually do any research is bad. Dude could literally just not fuck over poorer authors writing articles on blogs and such and he'd still get plenty of money.

      • LGOrcStreetSamurai [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Dude could literally just not fuck over poorer authors writing articles on blogs and such and he'd still get plenty of money.

        Exactly. Making stacks off other people's work is antithetical of the whole leftie wave we are all on. We are suppose to be openly collaborating, sharing, exchanging, coordinating, all that sort of cool stuff together. Not just private making bank and saying "I did it all myself because I"m very uniquely intelligent"

        • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          I'm trying to articulate what is arguably an even softer point politically because it to me is a stronger indictment: He could remain a full-on content mill that is just profiting off of other people's work, but give them proper credit! He'd lose some of his personal mystique, but he'd still make a lot of money while still being incredibly lazy but without fucking those other authors over!

          • KittyBobo [he/him, comrade/them]
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            1 year ago

            It's settled then. I'm going to commission a Kitty Bobo vtuber model and start making videos where I just read out effort posts from Hexbear and pretend they're my own words. It's the perfect crime. 😼

            • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              You know those AskReddit content mills? Literally if you just say "this is from the website Hexbear, the user is Alaskaball" [or whoever, but he does a bunch] it is no longer plagiarism and you still have a completely viable content mill, arguably more viable because you can slingshot around ideologically without question because you are transparent that it's other people's writing.

    • Budwig_v_1337hoven [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      the guy's not just getting a paycheck, he's doing pretty well and even founded a (Star Citizen-esque) movie production company, all while lifting his content from marginalized authors that often struggle financially themselves (or are dead, in some cases)

    • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]
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      1 year ago

      He is erasing queer history and substituting in reactionary daydreams as factual history, its destructive and fucked up, you should care

    • LGOrcStreetSamurai [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I also don't care about my job and see it as just a paycheck too so I do the bare minimum to make money. Like, unitonically, that's the system we have that incentivizes us to do the least work to get paid. I'll reserve my ire for cops and landlords

      I understand where you're coming from, however I still think it's probably uncool to bite off the work of others, especially when they themselves aren't getting paid let alone being recognized for their work. Don't get me wrong I'm 420.69% all for slacking on the job and doing the most you can to figure out how to do the least you can and still get paid, get your money. However, when I think it's a slimeball move to swipe the work of other workers.

      Writers and "CONTENT CREATORS®©™" are workers, and it seems like the leftie-thing to do is not jack their shit. Stealing from your boss, the professional managerial-class, MEGACORPS, all that sort of stuff is sexy and cool. Stealing the work of other katz who are just trying to make it as well seems kinda wack to me.

      Especially when things like writing which is actually transformed by the person doing it. I don't know the Marxist term or whatever, but it seems like actual work and labor going into forming ideas and getting those ideas out into the world.

      I hope I don't come as a scold or a buzzkill. Not my intention at all.

    • RNAi [he/him]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      I suggest you to watch the video

    • LaBellaLotta [any]
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      1 year ago

      Did you watch the thing? I gotta say that you sound to me like someone whose going off of summary and here say and honestly if you haven’t seen it I encourage you to because it is hard to grasp from summary how insidious the behavior he exposes really is. It is certainly lazy but it’s also very exploitative, particularly to obscure queer historians and writers

      • KittyBobo [he/him, comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        Yeah, I think I watched the wrong video. I watched the one on HBoomer's second channel about some pyramid headed cartoon character, I didn't even see the video about that other guy.

        • SerLava [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          that one was bad too, people found out that on top of plagiarism, she was a landlord, and on top of being a landlord, she was landlording her own employee, whom she illegally evicted and destroyed his possessions

      • Great_Leader_Is_Dead
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        1 year ago

        Did you watch the thing? I gotta say that you sound to me like someone whose going off of summary and here say and honestly if you haven’t seen it

        This is most media crit on HexBear

    • Great_Leader_Is_Dead
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      1 year ago

      I'd be more okay with these people phoning it in with their research if they actually credited their sources properly, most either don't at all or barely do it.

      Also this isn't someone slacking at a corporate job, they're making pretty damn good money by fostering a parasocial relationship with their fans. Some are even successful enough at it they can springboard it into starting their own small business ventures meaning they're basically kulaks. And often when someone points out that their work is copy+pasted from somewhere else they sick their fandoms on them, or sometimes even get the people they copied from harassed.

  • janny [they/them]
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    1 year ago

    My hot take here is that both Hbomber and this guy are people who are too anti-social to have jobs and who are trying to be content grifters and at the end of the day adding plagiarism to it only makes him 10% worse.

    hbomber being mad at somerton is like when the democrats were doing a "how dare you sir" about the children in cages during the trump presidency.

    • Great_Leader_Is_Dead
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      1 year ago

      My hot take here is that both Hbomber and this guy are people who are too anti-social to have jobs

      Yeah that totally doesn't describe half of the people here

      • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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        1 year ago

        Most of us here need to have jobs despite being too anti social cause we can't all be yourune celebrities or content mill guys

        • Great_Leader_Is_Dead
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          1 year ago

          can't all be yourune celebrities or content mill guys

          Apparently it's pretty easy if you plagiarize so maybe we should be using Hbomber's video as a guide

          • silent_water [she/her]
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            1 year ago

            just steal posts from here. people will thank you if you drop a /u/ in the corner so we can congratulate ourselves.

    • mittens [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      these takes are weird, Somerton was being cited as an authority on queer topics outside of the youboob sphere, which makes his takedown a bit more bigger than a beef between online types. dude was not only a plagiarist, he was also a known falsifier. it's just plain old academic dishonesty, the sort of thing that would make the news if this had happened on an actual campus. we're now in an era where bonafide pundits are taking fucking video essays at face value, B-list celebs like Neil Gaiman find out Hbomb uploaded a new video hours after it gets posted. Somerton's channel was going to be his platform towards building a movie studio ffs. we're in a new world where youtube is mainstream and things that happen there are now felt in meatspace.

  • 2Password2Remember [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    if you care about any of this you need to seriously re-evaluate your life

    Death to America

    • silent_water [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      ripping off a bunch of queer people who are much less well-known than you - some of whom died of AIDS in obscurity - is kind of serious for the queer community. a lot of people missed how horny for nazis he was and they're just learning it now.

    • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Yeah, you're only allowed to care about important things. All media is banned except for post war italian cinema reflecting on fascism and revolution

      • 2Password2Remember [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        i don't even know what the video is about, i just know it's 4 hours long and therefore should be irrelevant to literally everyone. also youtube is not the academy, who gives a fuck lol

        Death to America

        • blakeus12 [they/them, he/him]
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          1 year ago

          who gives a fuck? the queer writers whose work was stolen and pumped out as shitty content farm video essays for a greasy misogynistic nazi fucker

          look i understand four hours is a lot but that is just the amount of shit this asshole has churned out.

        • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Marxism is the ruthless criticism of all that exists. Plagiarism isn't bad for academic reasons, but because it exploits the labor of vulnerable people and is a basis for spreading misinformation.

        • KarlBarqs [he/him, they/them]
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          1 year ago

          It's a long video, yes, but it's primarily a video about one of the largest queer creators on YouTube stealing from smaller queer creators, erasing their contribution to media and literary critique while simultaneously positioning himself as King Queer.

          I know it's a meme to laugh about internet drama and be contrarian and popular media here, but in this case, it's a valid subject.

        • BioWarfarePosadist [she/her, they/them]
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          1 year ago

          H bomber guy is one of the better YouTubers out there. He seems to really make his videos out of passion on the topic he going on about, and not just for profit.

          It's a worthwhile listen, play it in the background while doing something else.

  • MerryChristmas [any]
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    1 year ago

    Did this guy used to post on Hexbear/CTH or is he just one of our screenshot guys? My timeline is getting hazy at this point.

    I'll check this out tomorrow either way. I'm not gonna spend four hours of my free time watching it but I will definitely spend four hours of my work time listening to it in the background.

    • indorri [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Started listening to it in the background as well, literally watching the end right now.

      Summary: a long list showing some guy passing off other people's content as his own, a lot of those other people being queer writers. Glad I watched it, but it is seriously too long.

  • TheDialectic [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    I heard a bunch of good takes that will never get talked about like they should be. He was scamming his boss to get paid doing a terrible job. So we have to respect the hustle.

    Hbomberguy posted a video about his videos so in a way he is just recycling thst same content for views again.

    How hilarious would it be if our villian just copied Hbomber's video and declined to explain thr joke?

    • RNAi [he/him]
      hexagon
      ·
      1 year ago

      Which boss?

      Harddrive did that joke