EJ normally: i will just criticise ideas instead of the people because i dont want to engage in drama
EJ when someone is disrespectful towards Luna: :stalin-gun-1::stalin-gun-2:
I've avoided hearing this turd talk until now and had to check out of curiosity. Dude is just Ben Shapiro.
Pretty sure destiny said getting to debate Ben shapiro would be the ultimate achievement
Yup, they both use the same tactic of attempting to overwhelm the opponent with projectile vomited words and arguments, even (or especially) if they aren't completely relevant to the debate. That other lame streamer, Destiny does it as well. It's just a pathetic tactic, essentially implies strong, concise and accurate arguments aren't necessary. If this was a debate team, they'd loose just on that merit.
You'd think it would be a risk to rely on being able to overwhelm your opponent with nonsense, but I guess when you pick your opponent or are arguing with a recording so they can't talk back it's pretty easy
Their core audiences find that kind of bullshit compelling, and much of the "presence" and reputation of these weenies relies on their fans making flattering, highly-edited compilations of their favorite e-celebs owning everybody else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop The good old Gish Gallop
Some spicy left unity quotes in this video.
"Certainly! If we anarchists could achieve the revolution on our own, or if the socialists could on their own, we could enjoy the luxury of each acting independently and of perhaps quarreling. But the revolution will be made by all the proletariat, all the people, whereas the socialists and anarchists are a numerical minority, though they appear to enjoy the sympathy of the people as a whole. For us to be divided even where there are grounds for unity, would mean dividing the workers, or rather, cooling off their sympathies, as well as making them less likely to follow the socialistic line common to both socialists and anarchists and which is at the heart of the revolution. It is up to the revolutionaries, especially the anarchists and socialists, to see to this by not exaggerating the differences and paying attention above all to the realities and objectives which can unite us and assist us to draw the greatest possible revolutionary advantage from the situation."
-Errico Malatesta
While little has changed of my opinion on :funny-clown-hammer: (NSFW), I can say that this video has made me more excited to read the book Luna has been translating.
NonCompete seems way less cringe than when he was doing puppet shows about mutual aide. That book translation sounds like one hell of an undertaking.
Adults enjoyed puppet shows plenty in the feudal past. Reject capitalist anti puppet show revisionism, embrace revolutionary sock puppetry
you can personally dislike something for taking on a childlike veneer, but don't pretend that makes it less worthwhile or useful.
don't pretend that phrasing does not carry with it a ton of condescension for what is being talked about.
Fine, stop giving a shit about my opinion on puppet videos. They're childish and that is the reason I do t like them and don't need to be scolded for being too harsh about a stupid puppet show
I do t get the contradiction between saying something with a condescending tone and pointing out that I did in fact have in my statement that it's a personal opinion so it has no bearing on whether or not it could be worthwhile.
you can personally dislike something for taking on a childlike veneer, but don’t pretend that makes it less worthwhile or useful.
You want me to bold some of the words too or do you get the point?
But what if you're a grown adult that just so happens to like puppet shows?
Oh shit I had no idea they were married. Haven't watched much of his content and felt awkward he referred to her as his wife. Now that I know it wasn't an uncomfortable joke, I feel better.
They have a goofy terminally online marriage live stream video it's pretty cute lol
The bit where the guy officiating says "you are the Marx to their Lenin, you are the Stirner to their.... Stirner" was :chefs-kiss:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwf1jpLV6mA at 17:50 it starts
I couldn't make it through the entire video, because in order to respond to Vaush (which he did well I think) he had to include a lot of Vaush, and that doesn't work for me.
The video did help me find Luna's original video which I had missed though, and that was great! No Vaush to be seen or - more importantly - heard!
luna is too precious for this world we must defend her rabidly and at all costs :bird-screm-2:
also :funny-clown-hammer:
Not only disrespectful. The shitbag was laughing at her recalling the torture of her family. I hope his channel fucking sinks.
Yo that Vietnamese book on dialectical materialism sounds sick, thats awesome they're translating that
I truly have no clue why this kiddie creeping chud ever had an audience to begin with. I really don't. Could someone explain this to me? Was he an epic G*mer like "Destiny" or something influencery like that? :why-angel:
He tells first world western chauvinist Strasserists what they want to hear
"Free college, legalize weed" followed by a lot of bootlicking chuddery?
The worst kinds of self described "leftists" are the ones that just want the leftist treats and don't actually care about anyone else but themselves. :disgost:
any good leftist should care about things that explicitly do not benefit them directly. I want to see quality of life skyrocket for chuds who want me dead. I want them in reeducation too, but I want them to have clean water, food, and air.
I'm taking about your run of the mill chud, the guys who eat like crap and are miserable all the time and have simply found the wrong people guilty for their predicament.
"To demand special consideration from the organization but to reject its discipline." It's liberalism folks!
:rust-darkness: Maybe the honorable thing for our species to do is log off, stop posting, walk hand in hand into touching grass, one last amogus meme - brothers and sisters opting out of a raw deal.
Someone once told me Hexbear is a flat circle. Everything we've ever posted or will post, we're gonna post over and over and over again. And that pig is gonna be in that pen shitting on its balls again, and again, and again, forever.
Im sorry but i am legally obligated to post every new noncompete video
yes but :haram: . if you keep paying attention to him he will continue to exist.
seriously. over this fucker existing. he's worse than a neo-lib because he's a fucking infiltrator that misguides the discontent. we need a real "No Vaush" rule, and it needs to be bannable.
edit: ban people who don't like the rule too.
It doesn't really work to just ignore him when he has a significant fanbase that he directly sends to harrass and hurl abuse at actual leftists, he forces people to pay attention.
paying attention to him only serves his purpose of making him a larger personality. if you want to take care of him, then do it. otherwise, ignore him, because otherwise you're just making him bigger. this is a guy that has had weird "informant" and pedophilia shit and he still gets to exist already, and nothing has touched him, because he's being backed by the cia to infiltrate. stop paying any attention to this fucking piece of shit, and if anyone brings him up all you have to respond with is that he's a pedophile infiltrator.
Ok so regardless of if we pay attention to him or not he will remain existing because he's being backed?
At least say you're just fucking sick of hearing about him as a reason to ignore him, don't come up with schoolyard bully logic like "Oh if you don't react to them they'll go away because its no fun".
no ones preventing criticism of them being allowed on that platform. this is not the place to voice such criticism. we all know he's a piece of shit already, and giving him attention on an actual leftist platform gives him a vague and undeserved amount of credibility, as if he's someone to be debated against. if you want to voice your annoyance with him, do it on a platform where your voice will be heard by the people your grievance is with.
if you want to voice your criticisms about him and have them heard, then do it elsewhere. i'm asserting that I don't want to read about all the threads about him here, and a lot of other people don't either. go to reddit if you want to contribute to the vaush ether.
my initial suggestion is to ignore him. if you must bitch about him, do it somewhere that we don't have to fucking hear about it.
No one is forcing you to engage with posts that concern this guy. Just don't click on them ffs
:liberalism: just stop paying attention to him, i'm sure he'll go away!
v.s.
:af: bully the bullies back
Nah he's already popular enough that an opposing narrative is needed. You can't ignore this manchild away.
I don't know about the CIA, but taking money to push products is exactly what Twitch/YouTube influencers do. Why wouldn't they push political "products" as well? We all know v**sh and people like him would gladly get paid to push or avoid certain talking points, and we also know there are groups and individuals who would love access to his audience for whatever purpose. Do I have hard evidence of him getting paid to shill for anyone? I certainly don't, but the motive is definitely there imo, and it's something we should at least be a little suspicious about imo. Also, what was he doing hanging out with these known grifters?
we need a real “No Vaush” rule, and it needs to be bannable.
I've been saying this for almost 2 years now
please god make it stop. everything I know about this clown is from headlines I see on chapo dot chat and I refuse to know more
NonCompete and Luna are great but we really need to get them some editing or a producer or something.
Vaush is like the Anti- NonCompete. No, I will not elaborate.
Vaush is a psy-op to make everything in the universe look so much better in comparison that we we are made complacent when they launch him into the sun
