https://twitter.com/StrewthQueen/status/1553253076009488384

Very normal country where the fash fucks are spreading news calling LGBTQ+ people as groomers but this is considered normal in their eyes.

  • spectre [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I mean I think this is oriented toward a couple that might be agreed 21/22 and the other is 19/20 if I felt like being charitable. I think they wrote the sign to be parallel to the legal language which is the real issue

    • Ecoleo [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Keep forgetting under 21 is a "minor" for alcohol in America. 18? Go ahead and fight in our Imperialist wars, get addicted to cigarettes, buy a gun, or star in a hardcore porn. But don't you even think about getting a beer.

      • 3copsinatrenchcoat [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        anyone who doesn't want to kill literally every single living thing in the borders of the empire is an inhuman monster. just.... nuke it from orbit. maybe when the land is safe, it will be clean.

    • Thylacine [any]
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      2 years ago

      does it vary by state like that? that's sort of what I think too, but I've never seen a sign in any bar I've worked at or been to that said anyone under 21 could be allowed in even with their parents. I've worked at restaurant bars that were just sort of off to the side from the main dining areas with no physical separation, and kids had to stay like 10 feet away even if their parents were sitting at the bar.

      • spectre [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        It definitely varies by state, I've seen "unless with parent/guardian or spouse" posted at liquor stores in places.

        )I'd love to come into this thread an emphatically call OP a dope cause it's not like someone under 18 would be allowed to be married anyway so it obviously only pertains to people between 18-21, but that's not true in all states so this sign is implicitly welcoming child brides if it's in some states

        • TrashCompact [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          It explicitly is legal in many states for a minor to marry if they have the parent's permission.

          • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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            2 years ago

            Anyone remember those A Series of Unfortunate Events books?

            This was important to the plot of the first book. Count Olaf was trying to marry the oldest child to get her fortune, and it was only possible because her guardian- him- consented lmao. That overrode HER need to consent

        • Thylacine [any]
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          2 years ago

          I think liquor stores are different, my parents used to take me sometimes when I was a kid and I still see people with kids at liquor stores. you just have to be 21 to buy stuff there. but bars are actually serving alcohol and I've never seen a child in one, it doesn't really make sense to allow minors in since they can't legally drink anyway

          • Tormato [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            I’ve been in bars on afternoons in Italy in which whole families were present.

            This backwards ass country still holds onto that dumb puritanical notion that we can possibly make kids aware that alcohol exists. Which of course means by the time their 16 or 17 they’re primed to start overdoing the forbidden thing. How many more tragic multi-person car wrecks of drunk teenagers do we have endure before we understand this?

            • SoyViking [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              As someone who grew up in a country where every highschool had a bar for students and where parents would volunteer to serve booze at teenage parties to make sure kids got drunk in a safe environment all of this American neurosis seems weird to me.

            • MoneyIsTheDeepState [comrade/them,he/him]
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              2 years ago

              In Alabama, I had a Walmart cashier who wouldn't sell to me because she thought my ID was fake. I went to 'put it back,' and just checked out at another register.

              It's asinine

      • Wertheimer [any]
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        2 years ago

        When I was 18 there were three states that would let me drink in a bar if accompanied by a parent. One was Wisconsin, I don't remember the other two. I had a White Russian.

        • Thylacine [any]
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          2 years ago

          was that pre or post 2000? just to understand the time frame

          I used to order white Russians at clubs when I was a piece of shit 22 year old lmao

      • TrashCompact [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        In the US, you need a specific license that is more restrictive than the general one for serving alcohol if you want to be able to have attended minors on site. I think England has the same general framework (with different ages and requirements) but I have no idea about anywhere else. I'm dumb lol

        • Thylacine [any]
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          2 years ago

          to be able to have attended minors on site

          sorry I'm confused lol. does that mean in a bar? or a restaurant that serves alcohol with a bar in it? I always thought that bars in the US were only for people of legal drinking age with no exceptions. and the biggest appeal of going to bar areas in restaurants for me is there's no kids around

          • TrashCompact [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            Hmm, I actually don't know. I probably should have considered the fact that I don't drink and almost never go to such places in the first place, and therefore I should keep my mouth shut :ohnoes:

          • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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            2 years ago

            It might be a regional thing but my partners mom took her to bars when she was underage (18-20ish). Some of them even turned a blind eye to her mom buying her alcohol. this was in like suburbs of a city not even in the boonies

            • iwillavengeyoufather [she/her]
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              2 years ago

              Parents buying alcohol for kids (at something like a restaurant) is allowed in these states: Connecticut, Louisiana, Mississippi, Nevada, Ohio, Texas, Wisconsin, Wyoming

              • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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                2 years ago

                Weird, feels almost unamerican to me tbh. These were in dive bars not like Applebees which I think would make slightly more sense than the bar to me but :shrug-outta-hecks:

      • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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        2 years ago

        Technically the US has no federal drinking age, it’s just that every state has the same drinking age of 21. The federal gov will take away a big chunk of highway funding if they have it lower than 21 if I remember right.

        This also leads to the exact specifics of the law being different in each state. Some states only the government can operate liquor stores, some you can buy liquor in grocery stores, sometimes bars let minors in, sometimes 18+, sometimes 21+.

    • D61 [any]
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      2 years ago

      beat me to it by 2 minutes