Dec. 6 is the anniversary of Marc Lépine’s misogynistic assault on École Polytechnique de Montréal in 1989. On that day, Mr. Lépine entered a classroom armed with a semi-automatic rifle. He asked all the men to leave and then opened fire. He murdered 14 women and wounded another 14 people before taking his own life.
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The day before the anniversary, Mr. Rochefort posted an altered photo depicting Mr. Lépine with an assault rifle in front of a group of women, telling his readers that Dec. 6 “should be a day when we remember the first counterattack against the femin*zis’ war on men.” In August, 2022, he was convicted of inciting hatred toward women.
Some incidents of incel violence have started to be treated as acts of terrorism, and the Canadian governemtn IIRC has recently considered treating the incel "movement" as a domestic terrorism threat.
The uncontrolled growth of the incel movement is terrible, but also really indicative of how irreparably fucked the social fabric of most capitalist countries has gotten.
i've noticed any time any event risks uniting a majority of the population behind something (epstein, COVID, and likely the labor unrest that's coming) there is immediately a massive injection of funds to some fake grassroots/psyop to split everyone into two camps. the media then does it's thing to reinforce this. for example it was a strange first 2 weeks when COVID went public and everyone i knew was totally down for a centrally planned semi war economy and were ready to build community and worker solidarity. there was a tiny spark of collectivism.
then BAM it all became red/blue politics as soon as the "vaccine/COVID skepticism" movement sprung from reactionary cesspits.
also right and left everyone thought Epstein did not kill himself and wanted to bust it all down and see how far the pedophile network extended into the elite bourgeois.
so an op injected into reactionary cesspits responds with Q-anon which has now merged with earlier reaction to become the current "groomer" shitif a big economy freezing strike happens the strikers will be clearly labeled as democrats or republicans. We will get chuds doing a mass shooting against a picket line. no national guard required.
they think they can control this beast as it grows increasingly feral.
im a big kanye apologist, but ill never forgive him for making me learn who "sneako" was.
padme 2
(i'll save a struggle session for a future thread, but ill qualify here that i don't think agree with the content of what he's said (recently obviously, but maybe for many years now (or maybe ever)), and i also don't think he's simply been misunderstood, or is inarticulate: his ideas are deeply selfish and pernicious, despite fans' overly charitable interpretations.)
You’ve eliminated like everything about him from discussion.
ha. well, presuamably there would be some investigation RE assumptions about the value of work and the (ir)reducibility to meaning/content (art being reducible to a set of statements); obviously artist/work distinctions (and the degree to which anyone's life is a work, in like a Nietzschean sense I guess); the ability of art to be perverse/profane or illuminate/depict what is ugly; art as an outlet for the mentally ill; the relationship between artist and listener; ethical considerations of art. and so on.
I look forward to that future struggle session, popcorn in hand.
Is there a need for a struggle session just because some idol worshippers can't accept that their idol has chosen to become a hate icon?
And how come we don't mock this as parasocial behaviour?
the contours of the SS would develop in real time, but the interloculators would be between those who identify with lawerence's observation that one's soul is a dark forest, and hear divinity when beat the switches on New Slaves, and the dorks who are so insecure in what they feel and believe that they need every aspect of the world to reflect themselves at every moment, and unironically use language like parasocial behavior
Parasocial behaviour describes a phenomenon, I'd love to understand why it's incorrect to "unironically use such language." The weak insults hidden behind flowery, psuedo-intellectual rambling didn't explain very well.
i'm sure you're using it correctly, i just associate it w/the language of being too online.
Oh I see, you're probably right in the sense that it was likely coined by people who are too online, but I think the phenomenon far predates the coining of the term. I think it goes hand-in-hand with the concept of the cult of personality. Being obsessed with celebrity culture is mainstream though, when we say "parasocial," we don't refer to having imagined bonds with musicians, actors or politicians, we mean YouTubers and Twitch streamers. Yet I'd argue the former is also parasocial if you feel a need to jump through hoops to excuse blatant reactionary behaviour from someone just because you like their music, for example.
oh no no no mr. orion, i said the struggle session will occur later.
but i condemned and still condemn his behavior, so you'll need to insinuate something more substantial at the appropriate time.
Yeah, that's the thing, you did condemn him with quite a lengthy disclaimer, didn't you? At the same time, you called yourself a "big Kanye apologist." I hand waved the idea of a struggle session on the topic because I didn't think it was worth one for "this person now represents something I despise but they've made some bangers tho" but now my curiosity is piqued at the possible nuanced angle you could come at this with. Maybe I was too quick in my hand waving, guess we'll see. I'll look forward to reading this at the appropriate time.
yes-- i look forward to your charitable ear and your quick wit.
Strange to think that they, Qanon, and 4chan will probably be in history books.
But yeah people pivot to extremist ideologies (both right and left) as society around them collapses. We are living in 1920’s Germany and Italy rn. The only silver lining is that as much as fascism is growing popular in the US, so too is leftism, to certain extents. People always leave out that the growth of Nazism and fascism was in large part a reaction to the growth of communism and trade unionism.
But nowadays the growth of Nazism is a reaction to the failures of their own making
the first growth of fascism spawned entirely to combat liberalism instead of communists.
The heading image of the "Second Rise of Fascism" section in high school history textbook is going to be a screenshot of a pepe with >i hate women
these disgusting piglets want the whole world to hate them and I, for one, agree
In all honesty the bullying is probably a huge part of the incel pipeline. Despite how much dating dynamics have changed, it's still generally expected of the male to take the initiative and show no weakness or vulnerability. People still get mocked for shit like being a virgin or opening up about having difficulty dating, which is fucked up. Add to that the fact that there's very few social support structures for men around dating and its not surprising that some men who are mocked fall into the PUA to Incel pipeline.
huh, it's almost like bullying people and making them feel more isolated and alienated isn't actually effective.
Not if their whole shtick is that they're alienated and isolated in the first place.
Bullying works on fash because fash relies on a projection of strength.
Bullying works on libs because libs rely on a projection of competence.
Bullying does not work on incels because incels rely on a sense of victimization which bullying perpetuates.
And I want these dweebs to be turned into paste, turns out we can't get everything we want.
