• Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I assume there's professional jealousy because when James Cameron produces a three hour long project, you actually get something out of it.

    • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      More importantly, James Cameron now has actually put out a part two of something he's made, and Natalie now feels the pressure to do a followup to at least one of her last two or so vids within the next two decades, which must be unbearable for her.

  • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Christ, what a fucking L from her. There's people out there who just turn off their brains once they get enough money in their pockets, huh?

  • Grimble [he/him,they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Natalie Wynn: Sees modern politics as a series of tropes and events that relate to each other in certain preset ways but not others. Obsessed with colorful ambient lighting.

    James Cameron: Unapologetically combines these relations through an immersive scifi spectacle, giving today's political conditions a true sense of scale and connection to a greater systemic issue. Obsessed with colorful ambient lighting.

      • GnastyGnuts [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Pretty sure Spielberg was in the Epstein flight-logs / black book, while Cameron was not.

        • TheCaconym [any]
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          2 years ago

          Oh, he totally is a better person. I was just trying to plug a criminally-underrated (and largely unknown) show - specifically Future Man. It's very funny.

      • ssjmarx [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        lmao this is a great clip, did :thinky-felix: write this?

        • TheCaconym [any]
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          2 years ago

          This is only a small part of the TV series. It starts with a weird reddit-brained premise: one dude finally is the first to beat a supposedly unbeatable video game, and two resistance fighters from a terminator-like future - mistakenly thinking the game was a full-on simulation to find Humanity's savior - beam in through a time machine to team up with him. You really think you know how it's gonna go from there (boringly that is), but you do not. They quickly went bong-rip-insane with it, and it makes for a really great show.

          • Mindfury [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            i didn't open the link until i read this and realised it was Futureman

            it's a good show, folks

          • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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            2 years ago

            It starts with a weird reddit-brained premise: one dude finally is the first to beat a supposedly unbeatable video game, and two resistance fighters from a terminator-like future - mistakenly thinking the game was a full-on simulation to find Humanity’s savior - beam in through a time machine to team up with him.

            That's just the plot of The Last Starfighter.

    • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      https://twitter.com/Sturgeons_Law/status/1605239168518463488?s=19

      "The Iraq War destroyed much of Iraq's coastline, polluted its waters, and drove many species of animals to near extinction, which in turn had serious effects on the lives of Iraqis. Anyway, great book."

    • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      The Americans are just dumb the Chinese are capable of using their military as a means of resolving unemployment without going to war all the time.

      just don't go to war and employ millions to do parades and other stupid nonsense. Americans love parades its a no brainer

      • happybadger [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I wish FDR's New Deal Civil Conservation Corps didn't get derailed by the war. A labour army where you build infrastructure as a job corps is a good idea that I don't have any particular issue with. It was poised to become that.

        • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          capitalism just stopped trying after the cold war. When the Soviet union was building wonders and sending Yuri Gagarin to space capitalist America had to build and make technology that liberated people from shackles of domestic labor.

          Now there is no Soviet union we have NFTS

        • reddit [any,they/them]
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          2 years ago

          It drives me insane that we don't do something like that today. You don't even have to push the communism button to accomplish this, just create a program that says hey if you join we'll give you $75k/year to repair bridges and sort recyclables.

          • happybadger [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Americorps technically does the same thing but with nowhere near the funding or scale. It's basically a public trade school focused on marginalised 18-25 year-olds. If it were expanded out to all ages and gave similar 4-year degree options to the military, it'd be much better.

            • neera_tanden [she/her]
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              2 years ago

              Americorps js the best we’ve got, and they do a lot of good work while minimizing labor costs

              • spring_rabbit [she/her]
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                2 years ago

                I did a couple terms of Americorps. We were basically paraeducators, but without any sort of licensing or training and paid about 12k a year.

            • neera_tanden [she/her]
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              2 years ago

              It’s a more efficient system for lower margin industries where labor costs could hurt their profitability. Their labor pays their debt to society

              • Deadend [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                Shouldn’t the products be free then? As it’s only helping the CEO as is.

                • neera_tanden [she/her]
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                  2 years ago

                  It’s commodities. The price is determined by the free market. Of course with some public policy to influence supply and demand

    • neera_tanden [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      A strategic goal of the American military is combatting climate change tho. That’s not true for crypto. Offsets the emissions tbh

  • MitchFucko [any]
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    2 years ago

    holy fuck that is chud levels of smoothbrain. wtf

  • mittens [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Jesus Christ the whole thread is mind-meltingly bad, I haven't watched a avatar and I probably never will unless it stays on cinemas until spring when COVID recedes but like holy shit if you think the movie is too on the nose and contrived, then let me tell you about the reasons America started the Iraq war

    • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Just a heads up: the Iraq war comparison is ridiculous (or maybe not?), the movie would be far closer to the genocide of native populations in settler colonial projects.

      • mittens [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Yeah I also thought the comparison with the Iraq war specifically was a bit suspicious, I guess her post comes from her guilty conscience because Hillary Clinton famously voted in favor of the Iraq war?

      • NPa [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Wanted to see where people first used this term because HuffPo deboonked it, check out this press briefing from March 2003 where Ari Fleischer used the term first

        Some choice quotes in there if you want to pass them off as Lavrov or someone in the Kremlin being a maniacal war-hawk and then reveal it was the Dubya White House.

        Q Are we following the Geneva Accords --

        MR. FLEISCHER: Of course.

        Q -- in Iraq and Guantanamo?

        MR. FLEISCHER: There are two different situations. You have the war against terrorism, and then you have this conflict, which is much more of a traditional conflict. And we have always treated people humanely, consistent with international agreements. In the case of the fight in Iraq, there's no question that it's being done in accordance with the Geneva Conventions.

        Q How about the detainees in Guantanamo? They have no rights under the Geneva Accords?

        MR. FLEISCHER: As I just indicated, we always treat them humanely, consistent with. [sic] ::: :thinking-about-it:

        Q Ari, are you surprised that there have not been more chemical and biological weapons found so far? And why has there not been more of an effort up front to try to seize and control these weapons so they're not used against American troops?

        MR. FLEISCHER: I can just report to you what the President said yesterday; he's thankful that it has not been used. And anything dealing with seizing or anything of that nature, you have to talk to the Pentagon about.

        Q Well, right. But you speak every day about weapons of mass destruction. Is that -- is this should be any indication that this is less important than territorial gain or seizing oil wells that we have not done this sort of thing?

        MR. FLEISCHER: No, I think if you're asking about plans that would result in the seizure of WMD, things of that nature, that's something that General Franks is briefed on in the Gulf, and I would refer you to his words.

        Q The surprise element -- you're not surprised that they haven't been found?

        MR. FLEISCHER: No, I think there can be a variety of factors behind it. But as we have said repeatedly, we have information that Iraq has possessed biological, and possesses biological and chemical weapons.

        and these fucking journos just keep pressing for a Russian connection:

        Q If I could ask one other thing about the Russian thing. Do you have any indication that the materials we're talking about -- the GPS jammers and so forth -- were sent into Iraq on humanitarian aid flights?

        Don't know if it's the same person asking, but this question is asked multiple times in different ways. Like calm down, your government is destroying Iraq right now and you're pissed at them because they won't start WW3 as well? Some things never change.

        Q Ari, two questions: First, on the issue of the conversation with President Putin about the Russian technology. Is it the United States government's concern solely that Russia or a Russian company transferred to Iraq this GPS-jamming equipment? Or did the President discuss concerns that perhaps there are Russian advisors inside Iraq now helping the Iraqis use this equipment?

        this is a gem:

        Q And this is probably isolated, but there have been grumblings today, both from a Marine unit -- members of a Marine unit and members of an Army unit, that one of their concerns in these firefights is that they're not being allowed to use enough force. Is there any concern here that because of the admirable goals of trying to protect Iraqi civilians and Iraqi infrastructure that Americans are being put at risk in some of these skirmishes because they're not allowed, in the cases of Iraqis shooting at them from residential areas where there are civilians, to use overwhelming force to go after them? :jesus-christ:

        also:

        Q Why should the American public expect that you can accomplish that at the same time that you want to fund an extremely costly prescription drug benefit? I mean, isn't the administration giving the public a false sense of being able to do it all? (well hold on now, y'all, can't have the poors thinking we can actually fund whatever we want, now) :big-cool:

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Considering just how badly Verhoven failed to convey that his Starship Troopers movie was meant to be critical of Heinlein and a satire of fascist ideology, I think to some extent we need messages that are on the nose.

  • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Wow, a philosophy major YouTuber with zero work experience in the last ten years had a bad take? Color me shocked.

  • Blottergrass [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    :matt-jokerfied: THE WHALES ARE HUNTED FOR THE VALUABLE LIQUID IN THEIR BODIES ITS A METAPHOR FOR THE OIL IN IRAQ YOU FUCKING ARISTOCRAT :matt-jokerfied:

  • buh [any]
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    2 years ago

    I’m joining the war on terror on the side of whales

  • Kuori [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    is the "dark natalie" thing an ironic acknowledgment that she fucking sucks now or?

    • ssjmarx [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      holy shit I didn't even realize that was her god damn what a bad take.

      • Kuori [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        it's honestly incredible how fast being wealthy turned her into a world-class piece of shit

        many such cases, folks!

        • SaniFlush [any, any]
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          2 years ago

          Not even wealthy, just no longer in financial peril. Mediocre power corrupts absolutely.

          • Kuori [she/her]
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            2 years ago

            so idr where she lives but a quick glance at her patreon shows she has 9,390 patrons and that the entry level fee is $2 per month. assuming every patron were of the lowest tier (which we know isn't the case bc you need to pay $10 a month to be in the credits but let's pretend) she'd be making around $225,360 a year.

            she's not a koch sister or anything but i feel like that qualifies her for wealthy, particularly given she doesn't actually do any work anymore

            • Blottergrass [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              That's cause you're leftist because you believe in leftism rather than being leftist to join the american media aristocracy.

          • ssjmarx [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            I've always thought that I would give everything past a certain amount away. Being financially comfortable would be great, but I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I had more than that.

      • Kuori [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        :blob-no-thoughts: oh duh, it's so obvious now that you point it out

        (i'm sticking with my interpretation because it implies she has self-awareness and i think that's funny)

  • Commander_Data [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Well, the new atheists either became socialists or nazis, guess she has decided to side with the people who will eventually murder her.

  • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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    2 years ago

    John Avatar should have turned to the camera and denounced the tactical deployment of cancel culture upon the Na'vi.