What are the chances that Justin Roiland goes and does the usual "canceled" chud entertainer tour, getting money thrown at him by chuds while throwing a worldwide pity party? :agony-minion:
:inshallah:
Wait. It'd be especially cursed, even if it bombed, wouldn't it? It'd probably be some rage and resentment filled chud-satire of The Mandalorian but with a lot more Justin Roiland characteristics. :libertarian-alert:
The only thing I could see preventing him going that route is if he keeps his other contracts like Solar Opposites.
No way that happens right? I guess solar opposites already had a pr problem with Thomas Middleditch so maybe they'll just lean into it
as much as I dislike chud culture, ai dont think “what if we abused minors?” Is gonna be a hit with the anti-grooming crowd.
I dunno, it's kinda their main thing
inexplicably doing a mama-mia Italian accent
Contextually, that would actually be a funny gag.
I've been resisting this joke the past few weeks, ill indulge myself here:
LOOK AT ME MORTY! IM SEXUAL ABUSE RICK!
Brb gonna go wash my hands after typing that.
Judging by Justin Roiland's earlier works and side projects: :astronaut-2: :astronaut-1:
Something especially cursed about Roiland talking and thinking like a fusion between the Rick and Morty characters. :kombucha-disgust:
It really makes the attempted self-awareness of the first few seasons of R&M feel hollow
Has anyone really watched much past season 3? I quit after :pickle-liz: and after that I have literally never thought of it unprompted.
Funny how that episode made it go from one of my favorite series to complete memory-hole.
and a larger focus on how it doesnt matter what he feels, because the multiverse
an objectively stupid take. You're here and you matter for who and what you are. You could add in a million people just like you and each of them would matter. People are non-fungible
People are non-fungible
It bewilders me how many times I've had to argue something like that to pop nihilists of varying sorts.
My take is that some people are so selfish and self absorbed and solipstistic that it feels like a threat if they aren't personally exceptional enough compared to other people that otherwise did nothing to harm or even hinder them.
People are non-fungible
Isn't this like....a basic tenant of leftism? Fucking sucks that people don't understand this.
It gets blurry sometimes, especially from reductionistic pop nihilist types that say stuff like the machines are at least as worthy as the mere human "meat puppets" being replaced or even destroyed by them.
Disclaimer: I'm not saying machines doing work is bad. I'm saying that people that use sophistry to explain why people shouldn't even push back when capitalism fucks people over with machines that could have instead made their lives better are bad.
So, I'm not smart enough to really understand what 'non-fungible' means, so I took "people are non-funglible" to basically more or less mean "people are good and I love them." That, to me, seems a basic tenant of leftism.
What it means is that people shouldn't be seen as interchangeable, redundant, or disposable just because there are other people that can ostensibly take their place, or something "superior" to them for that matter.
“people are good and I love them.”
That probably is as far as you need to go. :avoheart:
so who cares
Roiland doesn't care and therefore the smartest and most powerful man in the universe doesn't care. No one should care! GET SCHWIFTY! :so-true:
The dumb parody episodes where the entire point was just “hey look at how dumb and overdone these tropes are in this genre of tv, and how above it we are” were the real low part of the show for me, especially since they keep happening. They literally watch like slightly better written cinema sins videos
“hey look at how dumb and overdone these tropes are in this genre of tv, and how above it we are”
:spidermanpointing1: :spidermanpointing2:
“nothing matters if theres a multiverse”
The implication that things only matter if there's a specific and limited exclusive set of them is like NFT brain with extra steps.
I love how everything everywhere so easily rejects this kind of bullshit
Maybe the reason Rick Sanchez is such a farcically plot armored ego insert power fantasy character for Justin Roiland is he needed to make the smartest and bestest exceptional version of how he sees himself, superior and above the NPCs or whatever, so very unique.
Yes yes "Council of Ricks" and all that, but that's just the old techbro belief that only the very special ought to rule everyone else.
I mean the old Peter O Toole/Orson Welles bit about Shakespeare playing the ghost rings true. The great artists know not to take the lead role but instead some role that sells the illusion/sets the stage for the lead.
Immature artists like Roliand and Lin Manuel cast themselves as leads since they can't imagine receding into the background (as great authors and artists do).
I wholeheartedly agree. It's in very bad taste and a sign of arrogance and hubris to not only have a blatant ego insert but to make that ego insert that plot armored and awesome and amazing while being the main character.
I mean negative capability exists (i.e. we can always read "against" Rick or these other self inserts since there are other characters).
But the degree of self inserts just makes that so hard. Susan Sarandon as the therapist is right, but the show keeps screaming Pickle Rick....
(i.e. we can always read “against” Rick
From what others tell me, including here, the show reads "against" Rick less and less over time as it is. :disgost:
The show never really read against him in the first place. Despite all the opposition Rick gets, his philosophy and viewpoint always turn out to be right in the end.
The closest they get is showing Rick as sad but even then it plays into the self-felating "tragic smart guy" who isn't understood by the sheeple around him.
Yeah again, it's immature art, since the mature artist isn't concerned with making sure people read things exactly right (think of Verhoeven GOD and chuds reading Starship Troopers as rah rah - granted in that case they're telling on themselves a bit..)
and a larger focus on how it doesnt matter what he feels, because the multiverse
This was a non-starter for me. What kind of :brainworms: are behind the notion?
If there were multiple universes in infinite combinations and presumably alternate versions of someone because infinity is weird that way, it simply does not follow to me that an individual in any specific universe suddenly "doesn't matter" and that their existence is somehow invalid and/or disposable.
Sure, if a pop nihilistic edgelord like Rich Sanchez or Justin Roiland had the means to harm that specific universe to power his car or get access to treats or something that would of course be bad, but the narrative stating "these lives don't matter because multiverse" is just :brainworms: to me, even if multiverses existed and worked somewhat like that.
It wasn't a non-starter for me, because there's an interesting critique you can make about this perspective.
but like what @LegaliiizeIt said it became over time apparent there was no actual critique being made.
I should clarify that the idea could be interesting but the whole thing was subjectively a non-starter for me because of the pop nihilistic spectacles and ranting from Roiland himself throughout the presentation. The show itself was a non-starter each and every time well meaning friends insisted that this clip or that clip would pull me in in a way that the first episode and/or "haha what if Doc Brown but :libertarian-alert: " pilot didn't.
this is the basically the edgelord version of Rocko's basilisk and 'effective altruism' which are both just doing eugenics with extra steps - so just a multiverse of bazinga chuds all the way down
It definitely got worse but I still watched. its such a small amount of time and I can pirate an entire season in like 5 minutes so I've typically waited until I remember "oh yeah, another season came out" about 6 months after the fact, then watch them in a couple days.
my life will not be affected in any form or fashion if the show dropped off the face of the earth.
As soon as they made it the slightest bit more difficult to watch than showing it for free on the adult swim website, I stopped :shrug-outta-hecks:
what did me in was that episode which tries to parody heist movies (but in particular ocean's eleven which hasn't been culturally releveant in nearly a decade) where everyone kept repeating "you son of a bitch i'm in" . i couldn't tell if it was making fun of the audience for liking this sort of lowbrow comedic repetition stuff or if it was playing it straight and the audience can't tell that this is on the same level as big bang theory sheldon banging on penny's door with his robotic "penny penny penny" calls every episode.
I think I stopped after Season 3 as well. I just couldn't take Rick's bullshit anymore.
The last season was pretty good except for a few episodes. Seasons 4 and 5 were pretty rough
Season 4 is bad season 5 is worse season 6 is slightly better but still worse than s4
hopefully it will be the final one
This is going to become like The Simpsons and Big Mouth, all those awful, unfunny cartoons with a terrible art style that go on forever or until everyone who works on it dies. :agony-acid:
This is how all these big syndicated cartoons work, they run on a separate model from like Netflix anime style shows. The whole point is to set it up as a passive income stream for the network, and why would you (as a network exec/shareholder) let that dry up?
HEY LOIS, REMEMBER THE TIME WHEN NETFLIX CANCELED MOST OF ITS CARTOONS, NO MATTER HOW GOOD OR POPULAR THEY WERE, AND MOST OF WHAT WAS LEFT WAS WHATEVER THE CEO PERSONALLY LIKED, NO MATTER HOW AWFUL? NYHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEH SHUT UP MEG
Big Mouth is still going strong? Couldn't stand the first episode of that shit and don't know how anyone could sit through multiple seasons of it.
We've had one toxic misogynist creeper showrunner, yes, but what about second toxic misogynist creeper showrunner? :sus-torment:
It does seem wild that Roddenberry had this utopian idea of the world but was also a massive sleaze (/worse? idk, kill your favourite creators)
They didn't get kicked off their own shows afaik, this is like a Kricfalusi situation
In the commentary track Justin talks about Summer's "nice ass". Dan reels him in each time.
That character is descended from Roiland's ego insert. :kombucha-disgust:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Roiland
In January 2023, it was reported that Roiland was charged with felony domestic battery and false imprisonment in Orange County, California, in connection with an alleged incident in January 2020 toward an unnamed woman he was reportedly dating at the time. A hearing is scheduled for April 27, 2023
:smoking-fish:
Really damaged Sean Penn after what he did (for those googling, CW sexual torture)
I can't see how the series will continue without both rick and morty
It would be pretty funny if they continued the show without both of them but still called it Rick and Morty.
Just get the Australian guy to voice Rick and Morty like they did for the one parody episode. The bazinga brainers will eat it up.
It was one of the best, also his show Koala Man is pretty good (the "superhero" is an obsessive suburb pilled stickler dad)
that's one of the dudes from Smiling Friends so it seems like it would be pretty easy to wrangle
That's the easiest and best answer for when anything removes its creeps.
That show went on way too long. It should've ended one season after he becomes president. A quick one season where the house of cards dramatically falls apart. Inside it's so long winded I didn't even care to finish it.
They have a built in plot device. A portal opens up and somehow kills the Rick and Morty we know. Out step Richard and Mortimer, from an alternate universe with different voices.
It's not like either one of their voices are hard to replicate. Throw a rock on YouTube and you'll hit a bunch of meme voice actors who'd kill for the gig and will nail it.
Maybe it'd have a bit less ironic/joking :libertarian-alert: and dial back the :reddit-logo: nihilistic edgelord rants with poopy farty butt characteristics.
That sounds like an improvement to me but I'm not the target audience. :edgeworth-shrug:
You guys are seriously overvaluing his vocal contributions. He didn’t voice fucking Homer Simpson- you can go on TikTok and see 20+ Impressionists nail Rick and Morty. They’ll find really solid replacements
Do you think they'll use an impersonator, come up with a plot contrivance to give Rick and Morty new voices, or kill them and replace them?
Personally I don't think they're bold enough to kill them off. I'm betting on voice change contrivance.
Rick experiencing lasting and well deserved consequences for his actions is against the bazinga ideology of the show.
The show becoming about Summer taking up his mantle would actually be the most interesting direction it could go it.
That's almost what Inside Job did with Reagan succeeding Rand, but with less creeping on Reagan in the process.
At least Lower Decks keeps on keeping on, though it's found its Trek legs and shaken off all but the art style of R&M.
That was something by the standards of Rick Sanchez. He gets to do more or less a reset where the family that obstensibly hates him is still there next episode.
Lots of people can do the rick/Morty voice. They'll hire an imitator, probably Hank Azaria
Hank Azaria is almost 60 and probably expensive, it's much more likely they pick up young talent for cheap.
Y-y-y-you don't get it -burp- it wouldn't matter if they k-killed them because life is like nihilism and nothing -burp- matters.
They should find random folks on the street to voice them in each episode
Get the original actors back: Michael J. Fox and Christopher Lloyd.
About time. I'm old enough to remember generations of stuff canceled by Cartoon Network/Adult Swim while the suits kept that garbage going. :disgost:
To be fair to squidbillies it was canceled around the same time as all the other og shows like venture bros, metalocalypse, aquateen, ect. Adult Swim's bread and butter was always the canceled fox shows and that funded the more avant-garde programming. Once family guy and king of the hill left they were forced to make their own original programming and that's how rick and morty came to be, but adult swim probably saw the writing on the wall with Justin roiland being unreliable and thats why they made smiling friends as a possible replacement for Rick and morty. And oh is smiling friends not capable of filling the shoes of adult swims most successful tv show like ever and has its own problems of its producers being sex pests. The whole oneyplays crew that is behind smiling friends associated with a pretty notorious pedophile that drew pornography of his own mother. I would not be surprised if adult swim has to cancel that show next.
Adult swim is a tragedy, its the defacto leader of western animation, it is the only television channel young people even remotely like, it has somehow managed to stay relevant in an age where tv is dead and the internet is king and is basically the only real art house/hipster tv corporation in existence (in the US at least). Yeah I know it's a subsidiary of time Warner or whatever the fuck but adult swim is a cultural institution on the way to becoming was a cultural institution. Like we all have fond memories getting high on your friends couch watching some schitzo cartoon on adult swim at 3 am, it helped introduce anime to american audiences that wasn't pokemon. Adult swim is something that can't happen again when the entire entertainment industry is owned by only 6 companies that can only produce nothing but sequels and reboots.
And you know, despite my fondness for this tv channel, I'm glad its dying. It was ran by the people who were friends with epstein, it helped perpetuate the treat society we live in, it helped sell funko pops and pushed a lot of reactionary trash like squidbillies and million dollar extreme. Adult swim is like a weimar berlin arthouse where everyone is on heroin and the ss are right about to bust in with a flamethrower. Its the swansong of a dying liberal empire, its beautiful but its death would be so satisfying after all the harm it has caused to marginalized communities and the normalization it did for the liberal status quo. The world needs less hipsters and brooklyn brownstones and avant-garde television. We need some (a lot) of discomfort for the western nations and taking their treats away and beating the shit out them is the only acceptable medicine for the treat obsessed westerner. Pain is medicine.
:pickle-liz: Can't wait for my favorite senator Kween to save the show :pickle-liz:
i was thinking that maybe the VA stuff is already done, but then i remembered that there's no shortage of people who can do rick impersonations and they're almost indistinguishable from roiland himself, so lol.
adult swim has ended
:sicko-yes:
it’s association with Justin Roiland
:sicko-wistful: :shrug-outta-hecks: we’ll take what we can get (still pretty :sicko-yes: though)
