Liberals are furiously phoning White House to call the manager about this.
I checked /r/politics (yes, I hate myself) and there's a lot of people saying "Don't protest, don't fall for it, that's exactly what they want!" What an insidious narrative
I can assure you, protesting is literally the very exact thing that they do not actually want
So just let them postpone an election for a reason a 2 year old wouldn't try. Mail in voter fraud. It is a fuck. Shit like this happening in the US is normalizing it globally.
November is going to be lit. cops battling protestors over evictions while the military hand-wrings over whether to support Trump or Biden (they'll go with Biden). and there will be just enough fuckery with the election that the libs will be calling for a constitutional convention and the wheels just come off the train.
My lib friends are all upset about this and I can't help but laugh at them.
You're laughing, there's a dang CHEETO!!!1! in the white house, and you're laughing.
lmao yeah one of my lib friends (who is genuinely leftist, but still somehow finds the time and energy to care about Trump's daily movements) sent me a text as news broke and I was replied with "uhhh who the fuck cares" & he got mad :'(
this headline is based off a tweet shitpost lmao but he umm can do shit - America are pretty good at doing military coups
You could view this tweet at as the start of manufacturing consent for this to happen. Start with a twitter shitpost posing the idea based on baseless fears on election fraud (which won Trump an election already lol), and slowly get more serious and normalise the idea.
It drives their ratings up. The media wants people watching the news, Trump wants people talking about him. The reason the media never wises up to trump's strategy is because they're on the same team
they’re on the same team
They aren't though, the liberal media would prefer a liberal in charge, they just can't help themselves. Because ultimately if they don't get those Trump clicks. a competitor will, that's capitalism.
You could say that when he was just a celebrity TV candidate, but if the president says something like this it's actually meaningful. Will it probably not happen? Sure, but he's in a position that might be able to make it happen, and anyone who tries to tell you something is 100% for sure off the table at this point is a fucking rube.
If by they you mean half the anxious electoralists on this site, then you are also correct
I'm more and more convinced that Trump might try something in November, although it first appeared to me as libs libbing once again (I mean I heard dems and redditors mentioning this possibility before I heard the Trump side hiting at this).
Still,
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Is there any possibility that, if Trump wins, the democrats could also challenge the results, denounce voting fraud (that will definitely take place), ask for recounts, and ultimately try to take the presidency? IMO yes. It might go to the supreme court, and with the social climate in the US by then, it might even be a call for a new vote. Just saying, whatever happens, this elections will be "Clusterf@#k to the White House" for sure.
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Trump is fiercly fighting against mail voting. I stopped trying to understand Trump's actions years ago (IMO mainly Surkov style PR). And I guess for the GOP this is the good ol' "preventing people who don't vote for me to vote at all". But I fail to understand why dems and even electoralist lefties are pushing so much for it, not seeing how it could backfire, and why the GOP doesn't see this as the perfect opportunity to steal the election. Absentee ballots are way more likely to be for progressives and way more likely to "get lost".
Why would delaying the election be such a bad idea, when we don't have any idea what the pandemic and the eviction protests might look like in November? (inb4 because we have a dang cheeto in the White House). US elections are a useless farce anyway. But it seems to me that the libs and chuds opinions on the matter could be completely reversed and that they only come from what party leaders are saying. Are the libs really that confident in their victory? Is Trump really desperate enough to see this kind of move as his only way to stay? And that's assuming he even wants to stay in the first place.
I don't understand anything these clowns are doing anymore, help me.
The easiest way to subvert liberal elections isnt actually by manipulating the result, but by making everyone think you did, so that they don't trust the results.
Honestly there is a real chance that whoever wins, a significant portion of the country will see the results as fraudulent (either mail in, or russia) and that might actually lead to something big.
It is looking to be a shitshow either way. In my opinion only good can come from this as any deligetimizing of the USA's so-called democratic institutions is a good thing.
Trump is fiercly fighting against mail voting. I stopped trying to understand Trump’s actions years ago (IMO mainly Surkov style PR). And I guess for the GOP this is the good ol’ “preventing people who don’t vote for me to vote at all”. But I fail to understand why dems and even electoralist lefties are pushing so much for it, not seeing how it could backfire, and why the GOP doesn’t see this as the perfect opportunity to steal the election. Absentee ballots are way more likely to be for progressives and way more likely to “get lost”.
Combine this structural pressure to avoid mail-in and vote in person with the societal pressure to avoid large gathering places to disrupt the spread of COVID and you've got a recipe for absolute chaos
Well "voting fraud" was the wrong choice of words. I thought of something very broad, like any attempt to influence the results of the votes. Even stuff coming from anti-voters law (which makes it definitely not a "fraud" in the legal sense of the term) like gerrymandering or closing polling stations to target specific demographics. Anything within the narrative that the only reason why the GOP could win is because they bent the rules. Kind of like they did with the "hE DiD nOt ReAlLy WoN 'cAuSe He lOsT tHe PoPuLaR vOtE" thing.
So what I meant was that even if this argument is stupid and shows the profound weakness of the dems, the GOP is indeed "definitely" organizing voter suppression.
Trump is both lazy and a coward. A coup would take both guts and effort.
If he loses, which is likely, he'll walk out of the White House on January 20.
Ho don't get me wrong, I don't think he has the will or the capacity to do a coup. By "something" I mean just enough to keep the media circus spinning around his person, to make his supporters believe his failure was a conspiracy, and for the dems to make fools of themselves by calling "coup" and "dictatorship" something that obviously is not.
Like a clown bidding farewell to the scene.
Not a real coup. An Andy Kaufman coup.
The US political landscape is so weak, that would be enough to make it implode.
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He's normalizing the idea. If it is pushed, I can't see anything less than an all out general strike deterring them.
If he takes the position that delaying the election is necessary for it to be legitimate, and the house fails to delay it, he's strengthened his actual position of disputing the results when they don't have him winning.
"See folks? I told you, didn't I tell you, we had to delay it, but the Democrats didn't want to delay it, they're cheaters folks, cheaters. If we delayed it maybe we could have done it fairly, but they didn't want that, did they?"
Eh. There's a little bit of Trump which would actually like to cling on to power I guess, but mostly he says shit like this so he'll be able to whine about how everyone was very unfair to him until the day he dies.
Yeah, but this sounds a bit different to me than just saying "voting by mail bad". To me, it seems like they are escalating the situation or at least he's testing the waters.
He'd have to go through congress which means it's not going to happen. This definitely is escalating the rhetoric though, which doesn't preclude him doing other bad stuff
Pelosi will tear up a copy of the executive order, and then vote "yea" on a delay anyway, because YASSS SLAY KWEEEN
But what if he just orders his DHS stormtroopers to disrupt elections in urban areas and then to physically protect him in office? Who will do anything about it?
The US military (especially the higher-ups) would much rather maintain stability by kicking him out for Biden rather than let Trump just coup the government with some DHS clowns. The American Empire is bigger than Trump and his gangs of chuds.
I agree, the military will go to Biden long before Trump. Not just for stability, but because he backs their interests much more consistently. But imagine the imagery of the military dragging Trump out of the white house. That would have some very serious ramifications.
No not really, he says stupid shit all the time. There will be pushback and he'll back down. Like almost everything else.
Plausible deniability for the inevitable COVID deaths traced back to in-person voting centers.
"But I tried to stop it! And they blame me for the virus..."
Rightwingers were fuming about this stuff under Obama:
rush limbaugh believes Obama will try and serve for longer than he is legally allowed to back in >>>2009<<<< (Racist language, no slurs)
alex jones and michael savage suggest that Obama will suspend 2016 election
random youtuber with 45k followers suggest Obama will impose martial law to stay in power in 2014
there are dozens of other examples of this, as well as people fearmongering about Obama expanding the DHS/local police departments to use force against citizens - who are absolutely silent or on the side of the oppressors now.
I guarantee none of these clowns are saying shit about this, or they're just complaining about voting bymail or some shit.
Isn't there a name for that rule? Take something you're guilty of and viciously accuse your opponents of doing the same thing?
