Such a supremely dumb religion. If you’re ever bored, look into its history and be completely dumbfounded by the fact that people believe this shit in 2023.

  • sempersigh [he/him]
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    walks by and tries to read all the text on the flag

    get shot for trespassing before finishing even a quarter of it

    america the beautiful starts playing

  • Changeling [it/its]
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    1 year ago

    Just another example of cishet people treating our existence as some intellectual chess game on which all sides are merely competing in the marketplace of ideas. Pride is not about my “beliefs about gender, sexuality, and identity”. I’m not writing fucking gender theory papers the entire month (well, I might, but it’s unrelated). It’s about celebrating a history of perseverance in the face of adversity. It’s about resisting the backlash that happens whenever we see even the most timid representation and visibility of queer people. It’s about looking at the current repression of the ability of queer people to access adequate healthcare and tying it to the rich history of resistance and activism that’s occurred over the past 100 years.

    • Hohsia [he/him]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      Few groups I hate more. One of my high school friends was LDS, had a brother who came out and was essentially blackballed by his family and the church. Now lives in a different state and is enjoying his best life.

      The thing that irks me about these fucks is that they will always say whatever words signaling acceptance while their actions are the exact opposite. Bunch of cultist freaks repeating canned lines

      People always say they’re so kind, am I kind if I smile while paying someone to stab you?

      • Hohsia [he/him]
        hexagon
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        1 year ago

        Also, any time you try to explain to them why you think they should deconstruct their beliefs a bit, you’re met with a “That’s your opinion.”

        Freaky and weird people

    • Hohsia [he/him]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      Yeah, my former friend’s brother who came out as gay once had a family too until the LDS church blackballed him

      But don’t worry, they’ll still tell you they would never do that

  • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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    1 year ago

    mormonism is a reboot to make christianity more compatible with capitalism. it worked so well that they make up a huge amount of today's spies. i guess that makes sense, the only people who can wholeheartedly buy into the mission of the cia are going to largely be this kind of fascist freak.

  • duderium [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Decolonized Buffalo podcast had a fascinating episode on Mormons, who, in addition to their numerous bizarre beliefs, believe they are the true indigenous peoples of the Americas. Also want to do a shoutout to the Mormons in the FBI currently reading this while dying of boredom without a single drop of coffee.

    • Hohsia [he/him]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      Imo, believe whatever bizarre shit you want, but these goons have control over an entire US state and have reached positions of influence in the government

      • dildoofconsquences [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        The Mormon church should be dismantled and its congregation persecuted to the fullest extent. I bet they would make nice organ donors.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        1 year ago

        The church also controls vast amounts of real estate and assets. Not "secrelty controlling the world" conspiracy theory stuff, but definitely "This is a business pretending to be a church and they need to be taxed and regulated" stuff.

    • Teapot [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      They dont believe they are the true indigenous people. They believe the indigenous people came from Israel, and that the book of Mormon was written by them

    • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      without a single drop

      Who knows. A few times a year they might be involved in horrific spiritual warfare by going to Starbucks.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        1 year ago

        I'm told that Utah has a thriving set of soda shop franchises to meet the needs of an entirely sober, caffeinated, and repressed population and that's very something.

  • MF_COOM [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    We heard June was the month to hang up flags celebrating our personal beliefs about gender, sexuality and identity

    Yeah you heard wrong you dumb fucking cracker

  • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    I fucking despise the Mormon religion and the way it relies upon cultural and historical revisionism at the expense of my ancestors.

    Imagine if I did the same shit to the Anglo-Saxon history. "King Arthur was actually from Namibia." They would lose their fucking minds.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      1 year ago

      Retconned history like this happens all the time. There are a group of vocal young men who hang out at the Downtown Houston bus stop, dress all in purple, and insist Ashkenazi Jews are part of a vast conspiracy to undermine the original black tribes of Israel. There are Chinese Christians that insist Jesus's brother came to liberate East Asia. There are Hinduvistas and American Natives and Australian Aboriginals that will all tell you they're the birthplace of human civilization. The Ancient Astronauts die-hards will insist there's no place on earth where you can find the birthplace of human civilization.

      I honestly don't care. If Mormons want to read my name off a list, ring a bell, and insist I've been retroactively baptized into their faith because that's what gets them off, cool. Whatever.

      What bothers the fuck out of me is how many of these little parasites are propping up the CIA, the FBI, and a host of other 3-letter agencies. This dipshit with a flag takes no skin off my nose. But I bet dollars to donuts that he's got a sibling in law enforcement just looking for an excuse to give someone a bad day in order to improve his resume.

      I wouldn't know or care what Mormonism was if not for the enormous network of influence that's snaked its way into every group of armed thugs my nation sponsors.

      • Chapo_is_Red [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        There are Chinese Christians that insist Jesus’s brother came to liberate East Asia.

        At least this one isn't asserting a historical claim or invalidating anyone's identity.

        Hong Xiuquan was a guy who existed, led an anti-imperialist war in China, and believed he was Christ's brother.

        Still very weird.

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          1 year ago

          At least this one isn’t asserting a historical claim or invalidating anyone’s identity.

          Idk if you can seriously make the claim that the Taipei Rebellion never hurt nobody.

          They certainly invalidated a few identities as they converted people at sword point (and then formed schisms and started re-converting each other at sword point).

          Even then, I'm hard pressed to argue what they do was strictly wrong. It just wasn't this liberalish pretending at egalitarianism. The Rebels came to rule, not to simply make space for their new beliefs. At some point, Mormon leadership understands the need to grasp political power if they want to live in their ideal world.

          • Chapo_is_Red [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            Idk if you can seriously make the claim that the Taipei Rebellion never hurt nobody.

            I wasn't making a claim about the violence of the rebellion itself.

            I was making a claim about the damage caused by "retconning history" when "there are Chinese Christians who insist Jesus’s brother came to liberate East Asia."

            That's not a retcon in the same way the others are and isn't invalidating the history or identity of people like when you claim someone isn't a real Jew or ancient aliens built everything.

            • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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              1 year ago

              the damage caused by “retconning history” when “there are Chinese Christians who insist Jesus’s brother came to liberate East Asia.”

              Was the convert-or-die zealotry of the adherents. It wasn't hurt feelings. They were literally stabbing you if you disagreed.

              That’s not a retcon in the same way the others are and isn’t invalidating the history or identity of people like when you claim someone isn’t a real Jew or ancient aliens built everything.

              Its exactly the same. They all did the same stuff. They were so eager to fanfic local histories to accommodate the new faith that they ran straight over each others toes and started killing one another over claims of heresy. It was Protestantism all over again.

              • Chapo_is_Red [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                They were so eager to fanfic local histories to accommodate the new faith that they ran straight over each others toes and started killing one another over claims of heresy. It was Protestantism all over again

                This makes a lot of sense. Thanks for taking the time to explain.

                I get what you mean now analogizing Hong and the Heavenly Kingdom with Smith and Mormonism.

                Was the convert-or-die zealotry of the adherents. It wasn’t hurt feelings. They were literally stabbing you if you disagreed.

                I think I got tripped over the frames of reference/verb tense. I was taking the initial frame of reference to be primarily a modern Chinese Christian (who oddly upholds Hong Xiuquan, but probably isn't stabbing anyone), rather than actual 19th century people who definitely did a lot of violence.

        • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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          1 year ago

          I'm a much bigger fan of Jesus' definitely real brother, Isukiri Christ, who took his brother's place on the cross so that Jesus himself could move to Shingō in Aomori Prefecture, Japan to fulfil his dream of being a garlic farmer, and changed his name to Torai Tora Daitenku.

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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            1 year ago

            I haven't seen it in decades but I'm like 60% sure that this was lampooned in Samurai Champloo.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Doing necromancy on other people's dead ancestors is a special kind of perverse depravity I haven't really encountered anywhere else. There are a lot of people who believe a lot of really weird shit, but conversion for the dead is such a uniquely bizarrely wrong practice.

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          1 year ago

          Doing necromancy on other people’s dead ancestors is a special kind of perverse depravity

          It's just lazy self-satisfied non-charity. You get to spend a few hours doing busy work and tell yourself that you saved more souls than anyone working at a homeless shelter.

          It has nothing to do with the people getting baptized and everything to do with reinforcing dogma on the people doing the baptisms.

    • Dolores [love/loves]
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      1 year ago

      we can swing an arthur character being from africa as a transplant from the african bits of the roman empire, but namibia's a bit beyond the transportation technology of the time

      • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        That's kinda why I chose it. I mean, St George was a brown dude from North Africa. Ended up the patron Saint of England. So I had to further afield in my fictional attempt to piss off the :anglo-burn:

    • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      Either Joseph Smith or some other early figure also bought some Egyptian tablets from an auction and claimed they totally confirmed all the made up shit in the Book of Mormon

      When actual egyptologists got to see them it turned out they were just records of grain or some other mundane stuff

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Weird protestants do love buying random stolen artifacts from the middle east and north africa then proudly putting receipts and account books on display as some kind of proof of their religious beliefs.

  • motherofmonsters [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    mormon guard lamenting his life: people can be rude… I said please get in the gas chamber

  • CoolerOpposide [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    Religious history of Mormonism be like:

    Mormons: “If you are a POC sorry but you simply can’t get into heaven”

    U.S. Government: “Believe what you want but if you discriminate like that we are going to tax your church”

    Mormons, one day later: “You’ll never believe the news god just gave us straight from heaven itself-”

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      A bad guy in the Old Testament was black, therefore all black people are bad. It's just H I S T O R I C A L A C C U R A C Y :lmayo: :us-foreign-policy:

      • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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        1 year ago

        Shit it's even wilder. "we believe that this old testament bad guy was black and the other people in the story including his parents and brother were white and therefore all black people are bad"

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Good point. I think they made that part up to begin with.

          • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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            Can you really imagine that the "you become the god of your own planet when you die" people would just lie to be racist? A truly inconceivable possibility lol

            Truly a grade a doof-ass religion

            • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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              1 year ago

              I'm told that they recently ret-goned the "You get a planet when you die" thing, much to the dismay of people who didn't know their religion was a front for money laundering and creepy sex cults

            • ProxyTheAwesome [comrade/them]
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              1 year ago

              Becoming a god is good lore. One of the cool parts of Mormonism that sets it apart from other religions. Wish they leaned into it harder instead of concealing it and hiding it.

    • ProxyTheAwesome [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      Mormons: God commanded us to take multiple wives, Polygamy is the heavenly order of God's church on Earth

      US Government: We've expanded far enough West we have to deal with your creeps. We're going to topple your little state unless your prophet steps down as political leader, and you drop the polygamy stuff it's weirding people out

      Mormons: We have received a revelation from God....

  • happybadger [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Since Colorado is adjacent to Utah it gets a shitload of Mormon refugees. They always stand out from other Christians by how traumatised and culty they are. Only Jehovah's Witnesses and Amish Anabaptism seem to leave as much of a mark. The Great Salt Lake evaporating into poison dust that will engulf their holy site is sort of like a Sodom and Gomorrah kinda thing.

    • VILenin [he/him]M
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      1 year ago

      You wouldn’t keep walking by because they would murder you for being in front of their house