trans women must be banned from all competition due to their natural advantages
trans women possess natural advantages in every category
:very-smart: trans women are goddesses
oh hell yeah, i knew all that dysphoria was going to get me one hell of a karmic windfall :lets-fucking-go:
Makes sense, it's the male socialization that really determines if someone will ever be good at jungling.
What is even the point being made, I get that it's a good idea to have competitions only for women, but what could be a possible reason to ban trans women other than to think that they have some inherent advantage against cis women at.. clicking buttons. I swear these Terfs will agree to any sexist idea about how much worse (cis) women are at things, as long as it can be used to bash trans women.
I swear these Terfs will agree to any sexist idea about how much worse (cis) women are at things, as long as it can be used to bash trans women.
I think they're fascists, they're not feminists. They will agree to even banning abortion if they think it creates conditions that would be hostile to trans people (british fascists have been clear about this). Their fascists goals are more important than any feminism.
Fun fact: In the 90s, a woman won Olympic skeet shooting for the first time, so the Olympics banned women the following year and then made a separate category.
I was gonna say that but then I remembered there are also several women athletes that are sore losers. :mao-shining:
On the one hand, it probably shows they have enough women interested to give two gendered medals in that sport.
On the other, society needed a sport men could lose to women at, and the IOC fucked up
I think they went from mixed -> men + women -> mixed + women?? It's confusing. Gender politics in professional sports is deeply unserious.
Mixed + women is the reasonable way to go. You have a women’s league but if a woman wants to challenge men she can go for it. Basically just giving women multiple options.
That was China's own Zhang Shan that got gold in '92.
When they introduced the women's skeet shoot competition in '96, I think they also made the number of targets slightly smaller, so that you couldn't directly compare the results between men and women's groups.
Being trans gives me a huge advantage in videogames
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I still suck at them though
I suppose it makes as much sense as banning them from physical sports. That is to say, none at all.
why the fuck is there a women's only league in esports? it's fucking video games, just have different skill brackets in comp or something.
It's probably like in chess, how there's open tournaments for all genders, and women's tournaments to encourage more girls to participate.
I'll find an article I saved about women in chess if anyone cares enough, it's buried in my bookmarks somewhere. But the short is that competitive men suck and are toxic, and girls who get into chess quit because they don't wanna deal with it
it's genuinely insane how sexist chess can be. like you get actual GMs who are like "yeah, girl brains are just smaller, it's science."
From what I've seen of Chess GMs, they largely seem like really obnoxious people. Challenger rank players in League of Legends seem like more pleasant people on average than Chess GMs.
Devil's advocate: G*mers are fucking toxic and awful and if women want their own competitive space maybe that's ok? Edit: To be clear I have no idea if its women's choice to segregate the leagues like this. I only follow the FGC, and everyone plays together. There's been a lot more attention on this shit since things have gone more mainstream but it was hella bad back in the day with sexual harassment of women players.
so i do think maybe that's a point, but i'd counter by pointing out that most of that toxicity that they will be subjected to (beyond Le WoMeN beAt tHe mEN's team coomplaints that will inevitably arise) will come from the normal online matchmaking service that already is not doing any sort of gendered separation. gamers are fucking toxic, i'm just not sure that beyond having women's teams (which i think is great, i just don't see why they should be pushed into their own league) there's much that can be directly done to protect them.
Yeah...I'm honestly using devil's advocate in a very non internet debate bro way. I do kinda think everyone in esports should just play together but also I can see the benefits of a more positive space. I love playing fighting games competitively but man there are some toxic as fuck spaces.
for sure, so at the end of the day, women should have the interaction with the sport that they want and think is best. i can't say what would actually be that. i just object to the notion that there must be women's esport leagues for some reason because the normal justification for that given by athletic sports is a notion of roughly bimodal human sexual characteristics (which is laughable anyway, but y'know)
Because they're fucking idiots. Don't try to understand these people. Trust me, I wasted a lot of time trying to figure out what makes them tick. It's just reaction all the way down.
don't worry, i'm not trying to understand these people beyond figuring out how to hook them up with a :gui-trans: in their area.
They want to encourage participation to make up the gap that was created by the scene being so unwelcoming to women. The gap is created by a history of lack of support for women in the genre and also because women are just not encouraged to be competitive so they don't tend to double down as hard as the men do when it comes to winning at all costs. This creates a gender gap, and once there's a gender gap you get an issue with women not seeing a purpose in participating at all because it's discouraging. So things like this exist to provide a way to play competitively without that discouragement and in an environment that's more welcoming.
This is very damning information, because it tells us beyond a shadow of a doubt that they don't give a Hell about the physical concerns they've been raising all along. It is now and always has been about extending their bigotry into the public commons. So fucking obvious. And so fucking sad.
edit: meaning to say is that the repooplicans have been saying that it wouldn't be fair to "contestants born
as womenfemale (I know right, how strange and ridiculous does that sound) in other words that's been their argument. But in a sport where people don't physically compete, that argument gets flushed down the shitter... Oh, well. sighUmmm akshually sweaty the male brainpan is just more hard coded for ruthless competition, that's the reason women are marginalized in esports. The rampant misogyny in the gaming community has nothing to do with it.
Yeah the obviousness of it as an attack and segregation of trans people actually feels like it works in our favour. It demonstrates how bullshit it all is.
Oh my that fast twitch shit takes me back.
It isn't even unique to Africa, and plenty of Africans are actually slow twitch dominant. See Kenyan and Ethiopian marathon runners. It's just that Africa is very genetically diverse and a massive continent. So you can find both slow twitch and fast twitch dominant athletes here. But racists think all Africans are the same.
are you fucking kidding me
feed these chucklefucks to :blahaj:
Just as a heads up. Conure is V*ush's roomate. They live in the same house together.
I've watched Conure play SM64 on twitch. I like the vibes and aesthetic of the stream but they frequently talk about and defend V*ush, which is off putting.
Imagine always being on the lookout for cameras in the bathroom because your roommate is a known chaser and creep.
Bring back Reddit Atheists. I don't care anymore.
This bible-thumping mouth-breathers have been a little too comfortable ever since they won Gamergate.
Im very glad that if anyone tried to do this at my local theyd be beaten up, then banned
I've been out of the scene for a decade but when I was a punk people used to give a few "love taps" when we hauled the racists out. Sure it's a cheap move to sucker punch but... not when it's nazis
