Muslims reintroduced bathing regularly to Europe during the Islamic Golden Age and centuries later Europeans are still melting down about it.
I think the Romans also attempted this with the British, from what I've read.
I really do wonder if that isle is possibly literally cursed
And neither Romans nor Vikings are around anymore. Coincidence? I think not!
Well, I mean, the modern English are sort of descended from Vikings (Anglo-Saxons). Scots and Irish are still mostly Celtic though (I think) and those places are way cooler, so not sure this argument holds
Not an expert but from the name, I would imagine they descend from the Angles (Engles?) and the Saxes not from the Vikings.
Yeah, for some reason I was thinking Angles and Saxons were considered Vikings but I was totally wrong on that. You are correct.
Northeast England and the east coast of Scotland have a fair amount of viking ancestry about from all the raiding, so it's not completely baseless.
Descended from is not the same as being. An Italian American is not an Italian is not a Roman even if you can trace descent.
Do you have a source for this? Cuz I keep encountering historians who say "The idea that people in [insert time period] didn't bath is a myth". I kinda just assume now pretty much in human cultures bathed at least semi-regularly, people don't like smelling like shit. Sure in ye-olden times they probably didn't do it as frequently as we do today because clean water a bit more labor intensive to acquirer but I think it's weird to assume even mayo-kkkrackkers spend 100s of years just walking around with fungus growing in the crotches.
Solid soap and liquid soap two brothers who couldn't be more different.
As a sensitive skinned
I had to cut down on the frequency of showers to keep my Yakubian hide from disintegrating.delicate yakubian dermii need dipped in moisturiser every 24 hours, this was yakub's plan to direct their actions toward the destruction of civilisation. unfortunately designing them evil made them simply eschew bathing instead, so they got really out of control
I'm also a fellow sensitive skinned yakubian. Fragrance is a huge irritant to a lot of people. I only use fragrance free bar soap (I hate the texture of liquid soap for some reason, also I don't buy things in plastic bottles anymore).
I use Shea butter lotion most days, but just a bit.
It's always fascinating to some someone conspiracy posting and you can see where they started from actual, real life, scientific data but then just got sort of carried away or actively chose to do this type of shit
Maybe, but you just know Twitter OP smells like spoiled milk constantly and he uses this as a justification.
Yeah you'll dry out your hair if you shampoo that much. Then you'll have to condition it often to keep it good. Same deal with thorough soaping -> using lots of lotion.
I wonder how many people are actually scrubbing themselves raw everyday.
It's an individual thing, some people "stink" easily. from google:
research points to the ABCC11 gene as directly responsible for underarm odor. Oddly enough, this gene also determines whether people produce wet or dry earwax. Interestingly, those who tend to produce dry earwax also lack the necessary chemical needed to feed the bacteria that cause underarm odor.
East Asians have dry earwax.
One of the funniest parts of shogun is all the japanese people being disgusted by the brit not bathing regularly.
Also good to see how quickly he realises that being clean is great.
In the book the character spends a lot of time thinking about how fucking filthy everything in Europe actually is. Including his wife...
tbh not entirely wrong wrt specifically to soap
You should hit your whole body with cleanser but actual soap is drying af
If you only use soap is pretty ineffective, you need to use water too.
Soap has a pH higher than your skin and it kinda caustically dissolves you while also stripping it of sebum i.e. "skin oil." Cleansers are formulated to not do that.
Yeah I'm also in the don't use soap all the time camp. I haven't used shampoo outside of a handful of times in like ten years. Your body does have a pretty complex system of oils that keep your skin and hair healthy and it's not great to strip that off every day. Obviously if you're getting dirty working or exerting yourself you wanna get clean, but normal day-to-day, you don't gotta do all that. One thing that I think people don't realize is that it takes a little bit for your shit to get back to normal after denuding yourself of your natural oils every day. I really noticed it with my hair being really greasy for a couple weeks when I stopped shampooing. But it does equalize after a little bit and then you're in pretty good shape to just use detergents at a lower rate.
Probably referring to areas like the underarm and groin that get particularly sweaty.
Not the ass, though, it's gay to wash your ass.
Ah okay that makes sense, thank you. Not sure why it didn't click
Some of this is true. I still shower everyday because I hate smelling bad, but you don't need to use soap all over every day. Just the stinky parts.
Also I stopped using soap altogether on my face and my skin looks fantastic.
Check out the book The Skincare Hoax.
The same with shampoos, I started shampooing twice a week when I had short hair and my hair started looking healthier in a week
Nowadays with long hair I just use conditioner twice a week
Yeah if I soaped everywhere everyday, I think my skin would become 100% eczema rash.
Considering most of the responses here are from stinkies too, I'll urge you all to bath everyday. Like with food, you have to look for good soaps/shampoos with an intelligible ingredient list. For example I use Beekman goat milk soap. No fragrances, no other bs than goat's milk. Feels like lotion. I only exfoliate once, twice a week with a loufa. Cheap shit dries your skin/hair.
I do not think "intelligible ingredient list" is a good metric, just because a company chooses to put a wholesome* natural* kind of word on there instead of a scientific one has no bearing on if the ingredient is good or not.
*marketing terms with no agreed upon, let alone enforceable, definition
There are sites like ewg.org that'll give you an idea about what's considered safe to ingest or apply topically. Its telling when you have a laundry list of the composition of a shampoo. People then resort to "no poo" fads or spend their money trying to figure out why their skin reacts or hair dries.
Ethique shampoo bars are great. I used the anti frizz one.
I saw the opposite of this post once. It was trying to shame people for using deodorant and saying smelling bad is fine. I don't want to smell bad. I want to smell good or at least neutral.
I don’t use deodorant because all the ones that work use aluminum for some reason, and all the ones that don’t use aluminum fucking suck and don’t stop me from smelling.
Been there. Just took the aluminum pill after a while, but willing to try natural stuff again should something promising show up.
I would but my job is physical so I end up sweating regardless anyways. If that wasn’t the case then yeah I would just use regular deodorant lol.
After living with someone who used deodorant for two years I can say that the deodorant smells way worse and stronger than what their natural body odor is. If you want you can always just wipe your pits with IPA or a wet wipe or something.
Big Soap obviously exists though? Some of the biggest companies in the world these days are soap companies. Proctor and Gamble, Unilever, and Colgate-Palmolive are all enormous companies and one of their most important marketing tactics is telling people that they are stinky, smelly and no one will ever love them
If you look at their revenue breakdown about half of it is different kinds of soap, especially if you include other soap types like dish and laundry detergent, shampoo, and toothpaste. Then about another quarter is vanity like makeup and deodorant. Then the last quarter is ultra processed foods. It is accurate to call them Big Soap.
he's actually right. same shit with using shampoo every day
