hey now, they also like the photo of a bunch of abandoned bicycles
"On this day, an unidentified man stood in front of a group of tanks, quickly drew a large hole on the ground with black paint, and left whistling with visible song notes appearing. One by one, the tanks fell in." Comedy
That's scary. Really. That's super dicking scary and Orwellian .. so dicking glad I was deplatformed...
"No one will let you talk about Tianamen Square"
Talks about TS
Banned
"See! We warned you!"
There's no way they banned you for this shit, are you sure you haven't had another account banned and they actually just banned you for ban evading? I haven't even gotten a ban for telling a fascist to follow their leader, although I did get a warning
I got a three-day ban for upvoting an image of a Palestinian child fleeing her home as it was being destroyed by the IDF :vivian-shrug:
My upvotes (on any account I made or make with the same device) were never even tallied after that. They literally took away my ability to :vote: on anything, site-wide and it remains that way to this day. (And no, it's not vote-fuzzing. Edit: I've also talked to other people here who the same thing happened to, it's not just me).
Having been on the cth sub near the end makes you a felon on reddit. :miyazaki-laugh:
Same happened to me. Basically when I stopped using the site because I couldn't even downvote those losers anymore. If they had just banned me, I'd probably create a new account and would still be there, but it was all so cowardly.
It really is what ended up completely driving me away too, even as a casual once-in-a-while user after the cth sub ban. I kept wanting to upvote as just a tiny bit of thanks to people who would comment to help me out with some minor tech problem or something and I couldn't even do that. Yep, cowardly and ridiculously petty.
I had enough clout before joining Chapo to seemingly carry me through, only a few temp bans here and there. Any newer or "low karma" accounts that posted in Chapo though were essentially fodder. Just any action they made outside the sub would result in some sort of retaliation.
I tested with some burners that were basically instabanned after one inane comment.
I got permabanned from r/worldnews for calling Israel an imperialist settler state
oh that's just mods, I believe that mods on :reddit-logo: would ban you for anything, it's more the reddit admin team that's even more :frothingfash: than I thought
At this point I just run off the assumption that :reddit-logo: may as well be run out of Langley, and anything that deviates from the state department party line is going to get targeted by various astroturfed accounts/useful idiots
It's probably something weird where like, the owners work for Langley but all the mods are NSA and the spambots are at Eglin and there's a bunch of inane fed infighting over the site.
Like how we're half FBI and half CIA double agents in the FSB
I got permabanned from /r/worldnews for correctly pointing out that Radio Free Asia is US government propaganda.
how they would track with a different ip and actual physical address lol
Cookies?
I often have forgotten to clear my cookies and then it's the domino death of one alt after another.
Here's my wild hunch...
- A mod reported you.
- When your comment was reviewed - an algo noted you for ban evasion.
- The automated message said it was for harassment to match the mod report.
https://i.imgur.com/QIONznO.png
these are two of the comments cited by reddit admins as violating policy, to justify CTH's initial quarantine
damn, I had always heard that chapo's banning was dumb but that's so bad what the hell
Removed by reddit legal is something I haven't seen before....
If you've ever been browsing through a thread and seen [removed by reddit], that's what that means
I've seen "removed by reddit" before but never have I seen "removed by reddit legal". that's the weirdest thing because it means I guess that they think they can get into trouble legally for leaving the comment active which is, pardon the expression, quite insane....
I think that's just how reveddit shows it, I've never seen that when actually just browsing through reddit
They really don't like when you post a montage of American cops running over protestors
Just gonna leave this here for those who haven’t read it (no pun intended): https://www.mintpressnews.com/jessica-ashooh-reddit-national-security-state-plant/277639/
If you haven’t read this before, you absolutely should.
Kinda disingenuous to focus on what happened to the tank man specifically, when they're symbols of the whole event which is called a massacre for a reason. Protestors were killed en masse and information suppressed, it's not like the tanks were there for fun.
This video was taken on June 5th, the day after the incident, as the tanks were leaving the square.
I recently looked at some resources that you might find interesting. I reposted them with CWs here: https://lemmy.ml/comment/476526
Take the content warnings seriously, of course.
Most of the claims about "information suppressed" pivot on the notion that the fanciful stories told by some of the student leadership, some western reporters, etc. was accurate, e.g. "China is suppressing that 10,000 students died in the square." No, they are suppressing misinformation that such a thing happened, as they should. False testimony is rarely a public good.
protestor massacre is a generous way to frame what was ostensibly a uprising where rioters were lynching burning alive and disembowling soldiers.
spoiler
https://iconicphotos.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/tiann_1.jpg
- CW that, this isn't a shock board. 2) Disemboweling? I've never seen pictures or testimony of that, not that I have exhaustive knowledge. Technically, I think corpses were strung up but no one was lynched (i.e. summarily executed by hanging), it was all immolation and maybe gunfire via stolen weapons.
you can find pictures of disembowled and hung corpses if you want to look for them. not sure if the order of what happened matters all that much to the context of what was happening. also there were scores of people who were suddenly seen with english signs and supplies of gasoline who were the first to start committing beating and burning people to death, stealing weaponry and escalating the protests into violence.
I'm familiar with the hung and immolated corpses, my point was that hanging a corpse and lynching a living person are not the same thing and that I can't remember anything about disembowelment (and I've seen a handful of gory pictures of what was done to soldiers). I have looked, too.
Anyway, we're on the same side, and don't forget the fucking statue of liberty pastiche that got erected in the square for a time, or that random students probably wouldn't have access enough to petrol (a somewhat sparse commodity at the time) to use it as weaponry. Lots of very interesting interviews too, in the link I posted to the same comment you first responded to.
id need to take a look again ive seen a couple western sources report even disembowled soldiers but i fucking hate looking at this stuff :vivian-shrug:
There were several factions in open rebellion around the city, and exchanges of fire within the city from organized armed militia and the PLA, but in the square itself the wasn't much active fighting beyond regular protest violence.
The tanks were leaving the square, but there was still fighting going on. Who knows exactly what he was saying, but he stopped tanks from leaving the square and talked to the drivers, then was moved out of the road by civilians on bikes.
What we know for sure is that the tanks did not run him over, they spoke calmly with him when he climbed up to the hatch, and he was taken away by civilians.
We also know that he clearly lived in the area (carrying bags of groceries) had likely been seeing the fighting the previous days and also seen the PLA come in with tanks. He clearly felt safe enough with the tanks nearby to go out and get groceries, and is now, with the groceries he just purchased, speaking with the tank drivers as they leave the square.
If you take this video at face value, it seems like an instance of someone actually asking them to stay because it would mean militia forces would be less likely to start conflict near his home.
