Image is of coup supporters in Niamey, waving the flag of Niger and Russia.
While the coup in Niger is an obvious reason for this megathread's subject, the inspiration to focus here rather than somewhere else in the world this week came from @solaranus@hexbear.net's comment here.
Anyway, as a quick introduction to Niger - the country won independence from the French in 1960 and has since been in an alternating cycle of military governments and more democratic arrangements. In 2010, a junta took over the country from the military junta already ruling it, and then successfully transitioned the country to democracy within a year. President Issoufou was elected and then re-elected in 2016. President Bazoum was democratically elected in 2021, and has just been overthrown last week. General Tchiani looks to be the new head of state.
Like many countries that were previously colonies, outright colonialism by its imperial country has been replaced by neocolonialism by that same country. France issues their currency, thus allowing France to do what the US does with its dollar around the world but in miniature. The country is incredibly poor, surviving on subsidence agriculture, with much of its exports being minerals like gold and uranium, which many children under the age of 14 are employed in extracting. Also like other previously French colonies, the new guys in charge appear to be flipping them the bird, with Burkina Faso and Mali relatively recently asking them to fuck off. It is unlikely to be a coincidence that this is happening as internal dissent inside France itself continues to boil. Given the Russian flags being waved and Putin's promises to supply free grain to some African countries (and though Niger isn't mentioned, Burkina Faso and Mali notably are), one imagines that Russia also might have a hand in things.
Burkina Faso's president, Traore, has been talking with Mali and Guinea, and now Niger - all ruled by military governments - and asking if they're interested in federation, with Mali showing some interest. Traore follows in the tradition of Thomas Sankara, and has appointed a Prime Minister who is similarly aligned. Traore has recently met with a Chinese representative and has firmly aligned himself with Russia, saying that Burkina Faso has "one and the same outlook" on building a new world order, saying:
"Russia made great sacrifices to liberate Europe and the world from Nazism during World War II. We have the same history,"
"We are the forgotten peoples of the world. And we are here now to talk about the future of our countries, about how things will be tomorrow in the world that we are seeking to build, and in which there will be no interference in our internal affairs,"
"However, a slave who does not fight [for his freedom] is not worthy of any indulgence. The heads of African states should not behave like puppets in the hands of the imperialists. We must ensure that our countries are self-sufficient, including as regards food supplies, and can meet all of the needs of our peoples. Glory and respect to our peoples; victory to our peoples! Homeland or death!"
Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.
This week's first update is here in the comments.
No update on Wednesday because I am still busy.
Friday's update is here in the comments.
Links and Stuff
The bulletins site is down.
Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists
Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict
Add to the above list if you can.
Resources For Understanding The War
Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.
Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.
Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.
Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.
On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.
Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.
Telegram Channels
Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.
Pro-Russian
https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.
https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.
https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.
https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.
https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.
https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.
Pro-Ukraine
Almost every Western media outlet.
https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.
https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.
Last week's discussion post.
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Many of the lemmy folk have nothing to contribute since they are afraid of dialogue with Hexbear for whatever reason. They're seemingly afraid of the news thread culture since people here are legitimately interested in geopolitics and think that dead civilians in Donetsk sucks as much as dead civilians in Kyiv.
understandable, there are even hexbear users who have feared the power of the news mega due to latent unexamined liberalism and no-holds-barred dunks
True. Hexbear has a special culture that purges bigots. The news thread benefits from that umbrella but also has it's own unique culture.
The kind of analysis here in this thread is uncomfortable to people who want easy answers to anchor themselves firmly in a position that ignores the dark, counter intuitive reality of geopolitics. If you believe in clear cut moral good and evil, wrong and right, pure and problematic, geopolitics is almost impossible to stare into without being nauseatingly disgusted - so it's easier to call us tankies.
This news thread is more active than most communities, and if it was it's own community, we'd be defederated from most others.
this, 100%. I think a key part of the process of paying rapt attention to geopolitics is basically lowering your expectations of everybody involved slowly. Like you start off hating everybody for not being good enough people, and then you slowly go "Well, sure, this guy (Putin, etc) is a transphobic nationalist scumbag but he's doing X Y Z good things so relative to this OTHER guy (Biden, etc) he's kind of alright" and then you begin to not bother with the constant qualifications.
and it's at that point where people who haven't been gazing into the eldritch vortex that is geopolitics begin to go "hey, wait, you're saying Putin is a good guy?!"
so like, it's important to remember that we're all talking on a set of quite heavily lowered expectations. at least in terms of national politics, I think Putin is awful and I would hate to live under him as a communist and I think he should be overthrown in a socialist revolution. I think MBS is a piece of shit oil capitalist who hates women and minorities, and so on through various world leaders. it's just that these people are a) basically all we have in terms of the actors creating a (they hope capitalist, we will hopefully overthrow this and make it socialist) multipolar world order, and b) considerably better than the absolute fucking bloodsoaked ghouls inhabiting the highest offices of western countries. and sometimes, to keep you sane, you do get some genuinely good people on "our side" like AMLO, Diaz-Canel, Maduro, Traore, etc.
I feel like following geopolitics is like understanding the weather. There's pretty much fuck all you can do about it and you won't be able to predict it every time. But being able to read it and predict it to some degree, some of the time, at least gives you chance of either making the most of the sunshine or laying some sandbags before the flood hits.
Plus these ghouls have an enormous impact on our lives either way. I at least want them to know I see through some of their bullshit.
well said
Cheers.
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You’re just describing realism vs liberalism.
It does sort of feel like we go "interesting what the ghouls are doing, how can this be subverted?" while other people go "critical support to /our/ ghouls for imposing faux human rights on others to cause tension"
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I do think that the weather channel has a pro-weather bias to it.
This is a good bit if we ever make c/weather.
well said.
The year is 2023 and leftists are finding excuses to NOT side against the LITERAL NAZIS.
Your overall point is correct(i.e yes leftists need to understand critical support). But I also think, unfortunately for us, western political discourse has degraded in such a way that even 10 years ago any random real person in the US(i.e so not 4chan kids) would say "yeah fuck the Nazis we won WW2 against them right?".
And then this war happens and suddenly "but they're on OUR side this time???!!!" stops being a joke and becomes reality.
Yes yes paper clip, NATO we know all of that, but bear with me the point here I think is that while we can analyze and say "yeah of course the Nazis never lost they were integrated into western structures" etc I still think it is pretty obvious and clear that the current situation(open support for explicit Nazism) was not in the mainstream, certainly not something anyone would expect libs let alone actual leftists to believe unironically.
Libs that cheered when watching Saving Private Ryan turn around 20 years later and are like "but but they're just a small part of the government now!!!11!!" Not something you'd predict with heavy odds back then.
Don't get me wrong, it's joyous to see explicit nazi's getting pulped on the daily, but watching Russia casually barbeque bunches of nazi's is simply pleasure, not business in current world affairs since those explicit nazi's are just the fruiting body of a deeper mold in our societies. The nazi's won't stop coming until the weight of the planet shifts to suffocate them.
Captain, Mariupol was 15 months ago! (remember the "evacuations", lol)
Haven't you seen those forced recruitment videos, most UA folks getting bbq'd by Russia now are poor mobilized workers from like Odessa and other RU-leaning areas. The Lwov Nazis closest to the front are probably kicking back in the blocking detachments.
Russian telegrams upload pictures of killed Azov and other Nazi militants daily. They are still getting killed regularly and often
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What does that even mean?
Maybe, just maybe if there were daily pictures and videos of Kiev getting shelled daily for 8 years up to today even they could begin to make that argument but... yeah no lol lmao even.
I think the rationale here realy just means these people are also very likely to brush aside anti-zionism and the Palestinian struggle as well because its literaly the same argument.
Tfw hexbear is more tankie than freaking lemmygrad
I will be making a call to double our posting powers on lemmygrad, this is unacceptable
Posting >>> Theory
don't let hexbear catch lemmygrad lackin'
A spectre is haunting the lemmyverse
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I'm something of a leftist myself. What? End capitalism? That's going too far and you know it, tankie!
When I say I'm a leftist, I mean like, Obama and Pelosi, our true leftist heroes
r/chapotraphouse lies a mouldering in the grave
r/chapotraphouse lies a mouldering in the grave
r/chapotraphouse lies a mouldering in the grave
But it's soul goes marching on
look at how they fear us lmao
the airplane is like us or dialetics or something
A spectre is haunting the fediverse
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That thread is a good example of why nothing was lost.
Comrade Lenin's Cat linked our thread from the mods about how we should play nice on other instances and these were the responses:
We have all been brainwashed by the mods! We're all Manchurian candidates in the posting wars, triggered by emojis and order to... checks notes... be polite to people! Also, apparently having no agency and being polite is brigading.
From another anti-tankie genius:
They literally got the wrong instance, taking a rule from Lemmygrad and twisting it. Anti-echo chamber action from the instance that downvotes climate science if it mentions America's enemies in a positive light and bravely fighting the tankie menace - an enemy they're repeated asked to and then cannot define.
And finally you have those that stopped shrieking and rending their garments long enough to try and engage as 'fellow leftists':
I don't know what communism is. Why isn't it a rigid monolith of thought. I've read Marx, shame communists haven't. He'd never get involved with tankies. Communists don't even talk about the proletariat anymore, like literally ever, it's just Q Anon now. It's actually neoliberalism that has given the means of production to the worker
Absolutely no self awareness.
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9/10 times the phrase "I've read Marx" means they have read the Manifesto and literally nothing else.
Skimmed it and internalized an egregious misinterpretation that was hand-fed to them by a grad student.
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Weird, I thought their philosophy was to allow nearly everyone given that they haven't jumped on the liberal bandwagon to block lemmygrad. I guess they're more concerned with the volume of communists?
It's a question of the severity of the dunks - the news mega would deliver the most vicious and solid of dunks
It's so funny that people are so afraid of us. Old Tom won't hurt you little lemmy folk...
And nothing of value was lost
they took forever to defeated from the Nazi instance
Took forever to defederate the Nazis.
Preemptively blocked the communists.
Took forever to ban the Donald.
Struck down Chapo the moment they started saying slavers should be shot
and here i was brushing up on theory to own the libs and then this happens
turns out reactionaries of today aren't even paper tigers, they're just cowards
either that or it was a plot by the admins to get me to read more theory
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And some people here were so pessimistic about Hexbear being changed for the worst when we're far more active than the rest of these ex-Redditor losers. At the end of the day, they can block us or prepare to be steamrolled by us.
After reading the comments on that thread i'm glad they blocked us, and i'm seriously questioning the judgement of the admins in including a place like that to federate with from the outset
If i wanted to read brainwormed scratched libs regurgitating state dept. propaganda i'd just go to reddit, i don't want this place fucked up it's cozy here
I mostly agree, but I don't have a problem with the mods letting us explore it if we wanted. I'm sure we would have been more than forthcoming with the
if any them tried to pull that 'anti-tankie' reactionary shit here (after an appropriate period of dunking).
I've been having a poke around lemmy.world in the last day or two out of curiosity and you're
per cent correct that nothing of value was lost. That place is an achingly dull shithole full of most of the worst stuff about reactionary Reddit users who think they're left because they'd like healthcare. They downvote anything outside the absolute narrowest band of PMC neoliberalism into oblivion and scream incessantly about brainwashed tankies even at other obvious libs for doing things like mentioning China in any context other than abject racism.
You underestimate the power of the mod team
Mods can't even take me down. Not a single mod on this site has beaten Dark Souls. They're weak.
Okay you have me there. I tried playing dark souls and other souls like games, and I ended up wanting to grind my head against a cement wall like an eraser.
I have beaten every Souls game, ackstually
I knew you'd be the exception. Keep up the good work.
The defederation of Prague
lol, lmao even
Lemmy.world, The biggest group of cowards in the fediverse.
that would be beehaw I think
Lemmy.world has 10x the users.
you have to understand beehaw defederated from hexbear before y'all even officially announced you would be officially federating haha
It is time for us to assemble a committee to decide what bigness is re: cowardice.
If 2 groups exhibit cowardice as a consensus the larger group is larger whether they are less cowardly or not.
If we were going by how much pure distilled cowardice is on each instance I would say that it is highly unlikely that the average user of beehaw has 10x the cowardice of .world.
"Too affraid to talk to a group because they have different political views to your own" is pretty cowardly. Even 5x that level would probably be fatal. (2x would be afraid to talk to anyone who has different views, 3x would be afraid to talk to anyone , 4x too afraid see anyone ever, 5x too afraid to live)
I think you're onto something here.
Almost the start of an instance tier list, or maybe the cuck/chad list onn this mega.
So is that like the front page of Lemmy?
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Yeah it will, but it's not like we're could reach all the libs no matter what we did. There are good ideas (being polite) and bad ideas (changing the site to appease libs).
It's easier to reach out to chuds than libs
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A mod stated that 'a statement is coming' but that's it. I assume they're hard at work backwards engineering a reason as we speak.
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You keep saying this, but what does that actually mean? I'm genuinely trying to understand your point, because there is no person in that thread freaking out about Russia that would ever be placated enough to accept this place. Those posters are weaving concerned conspiracies that mods asking users to abide by other instances rules are actually "cult brainwashing tactics" and the 'milder' ones are explicitly stating that communism and fascism is the same thing, going as far as holocaust denial via the "double genocide" argument.
my thought was that federation was more about converting the lurkers and not the libs. the libs are mostly ideological lost causes, their purpose in federation is solely to provide us with excuses to present our talking points as well as opponents to rhetorically crush.
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There's no point, we could be "Oh we hate Russia and NATO equally now, now we are respectable and we can have debates right?" and then they'd go "No, you need to hate Russia more than you hate NATO or you're a redfash woke tankie", and then we'd do that, and then they'd go "Okay, now you need to like and love NATO for being such an amazing avatar of the rules-based international order or you are literally Hitler reincarnated" and then we'd do that and by the end of this process, we would have effectively become beehaw or whatever that dipshit site is called and given up any radicalism and basically denounced any movement anywhere in the world that is left of Reagan for not being civil and orderly and using purely legal processes to affect change, with a single death or a single brick through a window being an impermissible act of evil and any "reasonable" person must denounce the movement. While the United States kills tens and hundreds of thousands of people through sanctions, impoverishes nations through debt, overthrows countries for not being friendly enough, declares war based on completely made-up events, bombs hospitals and weddings and buildings which they have been told in advance contain civilians and not combatants, and the reaction is just "These are tragic mistakes, but the United States is still fundamentally a force for good. And actually, some of these aren't tragic mistakes and are actually good."
I see no way of suggesting even that NATO+Ukraine and Russia are equally bad (which is probably a smaller step than you envisage with "toning down on the Russia stuff") that doesn't then basically imply that actually, helping China, Cuba, Venezuela, and other repressed countries and movements (like Russia has been doing) is a bad thing, compared to NATO actively working to destroy those projects with sanctions and war. And given how the Ukraine War has had such far-reaching influences, it's impossible to really compartmentalize Russia's policy on Ukraine and NATO with their policies around the world. They both affect the other.
So yes, I wholeheartedly believe that Russia is a much better force in the world than even the United States, let alone the combined atrocities of NATO, and that's not even getting into the massive positive impacts China has had, and I refuse to give up that principle so that liberals will like us slightly more (but still hate us).
No they'll just find another excuse.
We should become reluctantly pro-Biden Democrats to become consistently palatable.