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I flipped a guy off two or three weeks ago because he blew through a four way stop and almost got either of us killed. Well he did a u turn and blew through the stop again and followed me home and yelled at me about how I "shouldn't do that because dangerous people will hurt me" and I asked if he was warning me or threatening me and he said "I'm threatening you" and then shoved me against my car before trying to run me over while I got his license plate number
I still haven't gone to the cops and a small part of why is everybody acts like I'm the fucking asshole. "You shouldn't have done that" from my girlfriend, brother, parents. FUCK YOU. I made a rude gesture because someone did something dangerous that could have gotten someone killed. I'm not the fucking asshole here. Maybe if I weren't male I'd get more sympathy but instead it's like "woops you fucked around and found out" and it's my fault instead of this person being utterly fucking insane.
Asshole tries to kill you, but you're slightly rude to him in response. He responds by trying to kill you again. PLAY STUPID GAMES WIN STUPID PRIZES!!!
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Typical liberal mentality. Being uncivil to someone who is a legitimate danger to the lives of others is worse than actually putting people in danger
“Liberals are like dogs, they don’t understand words, only tone”
Idk where it originated but I always hear it in the voice of either Milo or Alice from TF and
A friend of mine was shot and killed over a road rage incident. The shooter was illegally carrying the gun, got off with a slap on the wrist. My friend was black, the shooter was white. Happened just outside the city limits of Portland.
Unreal how some can hear stories like this and have faith in 'American values.' Physically sickening how these self-worshipping killers span a continent.
Sorry for your loss, comrade. I sincerely hope you and your friend's family find peace, if not justice.
Great example of not being submissive ended up risking your life. The lesson here is to always be submissive.
🥺👉👈
But what happened to you were crimes. At least Assault and battery, reckless driving, and menacing.
Yeah and I'm pretty sure backing his car up at me while I took a picture of his license plate is literally felony assault with a deadly weapon
I thought about going to the police just in case him having a record of this shit might matter or prevent him from hurting someone else but it just, idk, I barely have the energy to live my life and I'm worried it would turn into some draining ordeal that I wouldn't be able to cope with. Idk.
I do pretty regularly flip people off on the road when they are acting crazy, but one time a car almost side swiped me and I honked and flipped the driver off as second nature. The young girl driving the car was mortified and I really hated the way I acted. Can't avoid using a car in Amerikkka unfortunately and I see how it can turn people into monsters.
I do this, but I'm a pedestrian. Don't care how bad I make anyone in a car feel.
I've taken to either giving them sarcastic double thumbs up followed by a derisive headshake, or just locking eyes and giving them a slow, negative headshake. Disappointment stings harder than insults.
The thumbs up is my go to. In my mind it’s the “wow you’re so good at being shitty!”
Don't feel bad, you helped teach her a valuable lesson, and she will be less likely to sideswipe people in the future.
👎 may still get you killed with the wrong person, but a little less aggressive while still getting the point across
i'm also a fan of Thumbing one's nose as it communicates derision, but also you look silly doing it so it's comes off more lighthearted
yeah i try to enter a zen state, just like refuse to get mad, because the truth is there's nothing we can do to improve other drivers. Pretty much the only things I do are honk when someone's going the wrong way on a one way and flash my lights when someone's driving dark at night.
IDK, you should've shot him for shoving you. That's my take.
Acknowledge the world that you live in, and do the things that you have to, to get by in it.
That would not have resulted in a better outcome than the one they got. Maybe a visible weapon would have gotten the asshole to back off, but escalating to murder is rarely a good time.
Maybe.
escalating to murder is rarely a good time.
It's not an escalation if that's exactly what the chud that assaulted them came there to do, which it sounds like it was from reading their post.
At some fucking point you have to actually be willing to defend yourself & your interests against those that would seek to destroy them, and the way you do that in the material world is through violence.
The only other alternative here, that I can see, is to just not have fucking opinions of any kind, and to accept ones role as an entirely passive social object. Is that what you think the correct option is?
There's a pretty wide gulf between killing other people and complete passivity. you need to find a way to feel some agency in the world without wanting everyone who insults you dead.
The thing I love about the internet is you can say something banal like for example that killing people is bad and should only be done when absolutely necessary and someone will read it and it's like it's the first time they've ever encountered the idea
you need to find a way to feel some agency in the world without wanting everyone who insults you dead.
Did we read the same fucking comment? Because my response was not about an incident where somebody just shouted at another user on the street & calling them a "pinko commie f*g", or something like that.
What happened was, that GorbinOut very nearly got into a fatally injurious car collision due to another drivers malicious behavior. They insulted that driver; who then proceeded to follow them home & assault them, eventually with that same vehicle; and my response to that is "you need to be able to defend yourself, possibly by ending this kind of freaks life, before they end yours".
At what fucking point is this an unreasonable conclusion to draw from this series of events?
That's not what you said. This conversation is boring.
That's not what you said
That is the context of what I said, and that which I expected it to be interpreted in.
This conversation is boring.
Okay.
Being easily offended:
Classy if you're white or conservative, trashy if you're literally anyone else.
Tbf that is probably closer to the actual originalist reading of the Constitution
I'm sorry that happened to you and I hope that asshole gets got
Thanks. I've thought about putting a wrench through his windshield since I very easily found where he lives. But i should probably let it go (and also don't know if he owns the car)
Just let it go. I'm not a great example of this, but don't hold grudges against idiots that endanger others for the sake of getting that last word in. That revenge shit, it's not in our hands. Also, the liberal driller is still out and about.
I'm gonna say, wrong. They should 100% continue to hold on to this experience, & use it to guide their actions in the future.
Like, don't get caught, or go to jail, or whatever, but yeah you should trying to do things that will bring harm to your enemies.
I'm gonna say, wrong.
WRONG!
Like, don't get caught, or go to jail, or whatever, but yeah you should trying to do things that will bring harm to your enemies.
fed shit? you probably headed to lunch late over at Langley.
Lmao, I make car parts.
No I'm just a genuinely very pissed off person.
If you're going to go through a hassle on this, report his ass to the police.
you should trying to do things that will bring harm to your enemies
benefit: schadenfreude
downside: lifelong blood feud
Does some random rager asshole count as an "enemy"? If you could forget about them and nothing they do will ever affect you again that doesn't count, to me.
Def let it go. The urge for retribution is a misguided one.
I remember growing up in the south that sometimes people would pull out their gun and wave it in response to being flipped off
Had a similar situation. Stare a guy down and yelled at him to slow down when he blew past us at like 50 mph in my neighborhood while I'm walking with my kid, partner, and dog. The dude slams on his brakes(now he's not in a hurry), says "do that again I'll bust your ass" and flashes his gun. Then my partner was like "you shouldn't have done that". People are insane.
I cant imagine such a miserable life as having such a shitty familly and girlfirend.
That's not really a justified assumption about their life
Sightly related to the road rage stuff.
I tend to drive very conservatively when it comes to acceleration. I have a hybrid and I love getting 50-60mpg, plus I find that my slow acceleration often makes it so I don't get caught at red lights; all the while people who punch it end up hurrying up only to wait. So and way, had a guy in an F150 passing me pretty aggressively recently, but as he does so I hear a scraping and banging sound. I look left to see his kayak skidding down the road next to me.
Whenever I see someone speed around other cars I think,
Damn, he gets to stop at the light firstI’m better at going than the person ahead of me at the light, I want to go first so I’m not stuck behind grandma as she swerves down the road 10 miles under the speed limit
I mean, it’s dangerous, but wrt driving 10mph: the lights are usually synced, so if you’re consistently slow you’re going to run into more red lights where you could’ve made it through by a wide margin if you were going 20. It’s also not just you and another car on the road. It’s going to effect the cars all the way back through the line not to mention the dangerous swerving from everyone else who needs to get to work by 7 or be subject to their boss’s narcissistic tirade.
The quote comes from a science fiction novel called 'Beyond This Horizon.' Written by Robert A. Heinlein.
In the book, the government encourages particular couples to wed because of eugenics. A waiter spilling soup in a restaurant leads to a gunfight.
Heinlein loved throwing crazy idea around.
Heinlein loved throwing crazy idea around.
Imagine being such a NPC that you write a book without any workers in it and think "I'm not a fascist"
It's time for more "Deep Thoughts with Heinlein". "Human society brainwashes us into accepting artificial limitations on our lives and our choices. This is wrong! Love should be free, and without limit. Unless it's gay of course!" And that concludes our "Deep Thoughts with Heinlein.
OSP's review of Stranger in a Strange Land
So, I shouldn't read Sherlock Holmes, because he was in favor of the British Empire?
How about Greeks and Romans who endorsed slavery?
Sorry, I should have explained. Here, we generally believe that it is ok to consume media made by shitty people but that you should place it into the correct context, which in Heinlein's case is that he had bigoted and proto-fascist beliefs that influenced his work. We don't think it's necessary to defend someone (or their work) from fair criticism just because we enjoy consuming what they create.
So yes, read Sherlock Holmes and Greek and Roman works, but do not think that Doyle's western chauvinism doesn't color his works and acknowledge that Plato or Cicero had crappy beliefs that should remain dead and buried with them, but still expand your mind by becoming aware of what they believed and why by reading them. Do not uncritically accept their beliefs and do not defend them or their beliefs just because they are talented or interesting or important.
Criticism is not, in itself, censorship, and understanding requires context and critique.
Heinlein's great because every one of his novels sounds like hack dystopia fiction, but then he's like "yeah so pretty dope right? we should definitely do this, yeah? anyway please vote for me in the next school board election."
Oh but the second someone nominally leftie shoots a republican fascist at a baseball game everyone wants gun control. Not when a white boater kulak shoots a black mom of three in the back for being rude to him at a gas station.
if turbo libs did more cool shit, i would be more forgiving of turbo libs
The fact that "road rage shootings" are a thing in the US is so fucked up. You can just get executed in broad daylight by a random lunatic because both of you are so alienated from one another through your individual metal boxes that a mild annoyance is enough for people to reach for a lethal weapon.
“Well, in the first place an armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. For me, politeness is a sine qua non of civilization. That’s a personal evaluation only. But gunfighting has a strong biological use. We do not have enough things to kill off the weak and the stupid these days. But to stay alive as an armed citizen a man has to be either quick with his wits or with his hands, preferably both. It’s a good thing.”
Get that? The intention of “an armed society” isn’t to reduce gun violence. The whole purpose is to increase gun violence, to generate an excuse for murder that helps “cull” the weaker members of society. That’s what people are promoting when they use this quote.
It's stressful how mad everyone in Texas is too. Especially while driving. If they're delayed 5 seconds, it's grounds for a shouting and slurs. If they're delayed 1 minute or more, a gun comes out. Everyone here needs to go as fast as possible while visibly armed.
I was fixing my bike on the sidewalk in a suburb about a year ago and two guys with guns came out to threaten me, told me I was acting suspicious. I have a feeling if I weren't white I'd have been shot. I've also had drivers in big trucks tap me from behind while biking.
My cousin once shot at a lost driver who was simply using his driveway to turn around. He carries an actual SMG to meet UPS at the door too. Everyone's paranoid that a civil war will erupt at any moment. Pure narcissistic lily white panic.
Did this guy go driving without even making sure the turret on his technical was manned? Reckless, reckless, reckless...
I'm feeling fight or flight levels of anxiety just reading the replies here.
Holy shit America....
I'm glad I don't live there and live in a normal society where life isn't a parody of Grand Theft Auto.
He could just get a gun if he’s afraid everyone’s gonna walk all over him for being a wuss.
lol if you live in texas and aren't open carrying four cap and ball revolvers at all times.
I live in Texas but I shouldn't carry a gun because I'd have probably shot some racist idiot in CounterStrike: Global Offensive by now.
doing the revolver ocelot twirling routine to deescalate confrontations at the whole foods
These are the same people who claim that California is a shithole because they don't do quite enough to round up all the homeless and put them in camps
