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  • Andrzej3K [none/use name]
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    2 months ago

    Aaahhhhhhhhggggyhgderggdukjgffddswrtf

    This is going to be a completely pointless comment, but I have to exorcize this demon:

    • "oppressed" is already a value judgement, so none of this can be "foundational" in the way he is claiming
    • oppression is a bad thing by definition, otherwise we'd call it something else
    • so the oppressed are always right in not wanting to be oppressed, by definition

    dtgdrthgedseewqwefvvujnhfyjgfesaaaaaaaaaaghhhhh

    He's literally saying "have you considered that bad things might actually be good"

    • UlyssesT
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    • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
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      2 months ago

      Exactly. When the weak group is in the right, we call them oppressed. Otherwise we call them terrorists, insurgents, criminals or something like that.

      "Should be that right is right" is such an idiotic sentence as well.

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  • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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    2 months ago

    I'm so sick and tired of this nerd speak dude just admit you're a fascist who wants fascism it's not hard and you're not going to lose subscribers.

    • JayTreeman [none/use name]
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      2 months ago

      Dude's smart enough to understand a dog whistle. He knows what he's saying. It's pretty explicit

    • Angel [any]
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      2 months ago

      "Bro! You just posted cringe, but you are not going to loose subscriber"

  • context [fae/faer, fae/faer]
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    2 months ago

    improve-society people don't like being oppressed and a society founded on oppression contains inherent contradictions arising from conflict between the oppressor and oppressed classes

    very-intelligent aha! you have committed the logical error of assuming that the oppressed are always right!

  • NoLeftLeftWhereILive
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    2 months ago

    Dude is trying to sound so smart and yet keeps on failing at it spectacularly.

  • ProgAimerGirl [she/her, comrade/them]
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    2 months ago

    right makes right

    the first rule of tautology club has been revised. previously, the first rule of tautology club was the first rule of tautology club. now, the first rule of tautology club is 'anytime you see elon musk on the street, smack him in the back of the head as hard as you can'

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        • Thallo [love/loves]
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          2 months ago

          Fascists only care about power, and they have no issue lying either. They know mainstream politics has to optically denounce fascism, but they also know a when a particular political figure advances their cause

  • FnordPrefect [comrade/them, he/him]
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    2 months ago

    Even with minimal cynicism it should take all of 10 seconds to realize this is just Might makes Right obscured by tautology:

    Right makes right
    law makes right
    politicians make law
    voters make politicians
    advertising/propaganda makes voters
    money makes advertising/propaganda

    QED edgeworth-smug

  • loathsome dongeater@lemmygrad.ml
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    2 months ago

    I've spent a lot of time to write a funny comment to no avail so I'll say this instead:

    1. He used "axiomatic" correctly. That should have used at least half his brain power.
    2. "Right makes right" is pure tautology.
  • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 months ago

    But the left does not argue that "weak makes right". I don't see anyone on the left saying that the Argentinian government's policies are right, despite then being in a very weak position. On foreign policy, I don't see the global left supporting Taiwan or even Ukraine, despite both states being in weak positions compared to their much larger neighbour, and one of them even being at war after the much larger neighbour invaded. Most are neutral and just want peace, and a few states even support Russia and China explicitly. The appeal to weakness and admiration of failed projects is something that is usually seen amongst egalitarian/radical liberals and the kind of person that argues "communism is a good idea in theory, but real communism has never been tried" types.

    And that's the most charitable interpretation of what Musk has said, as other users have said judging who plays what part of the "oppressor/oppressed" dynamic is always a value judgement, and the oppressed are always right in not wanting to be oppressed by their oppressors within that specific dynamic.

    • heggs_bayer [none/use name]
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      2 months ago

      To the right, the oppressed are necessarily weaker than the oppressors. Therefore, considering the oppressed to always be the correct side of a conflict is equivalent to considering the weaker party to always be the correct side of a conflict. In other words, weak makes right.

      Others in this comment section have pointed out errors in this argument, so I won't bother reiterating them here.

      • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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        1 month ago

        Just that thing where they can't fathom how we think, so they just invert how they think and decide that must be it. They have a reflexive worship of power that compels them to always see the oppressor as correct? We must simply think the exact opposite, nothing more complicated than that.

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  • DragonBallZinn [he/him]
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    2 months ago

    He calls that thinking? All I hear is “I, the richest man in the world, LOVE cowards!”

  • adultswim_antifa [he/him]
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    2 months ago

    Hey everybody, I just wanted to remind everybody that I care about doing the right thing even if it's some untermensch's idea and my haters don't and you are being irrational if you don't agree.

  • asg101 [none/use name, comrade/them]
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    2 months ago

    He is longing for the "good old days" when the AmeriKKKan Constitution was new. When women, non-whites and the poor were property and the indigenous were vermin to be removed from their land executed.

  • qcop [they/them]
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    2 months ago

    Not sure if what he posted makes no sense or if that's because English is not my first language, but I cannot make sense of what he tried to say.

    Could someone please explain it to me in simpler terms?

    • UlyssesT
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      • roux [he/him, they/them]
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        2 months ago

        This was pretty much my take. Idk why he seems to think he needs to periodically post some quasi-intelligent drivel once a month though. His fans already think he's Space Jesus and the Left hate him for being a fascist dork and aren't at any risk of suddenly thinking he's some wise sage.

    • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      He is saying it should be "correct makes strong and as either side can be correct it is being correct that makes you strong" .... I think. Or he's saying "strong makes correct" as in "sometimes weak is correct but strong is always correct." Either way its some murky 'too-clever-for-my-own-britches' bullshit.