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I can see a lot of people becoming alienated after being scolded over nothing. Reading like 6 different pinned mod threads about how not selecting a pronoun label makes you transphobic has very much lessened the time I've spent here lately.
I absolutely felt alienated and angry that all these unnecessary accusations were flying around, and I didn't even engage.
I added my pronouns to be nice and I didn't realize we could do it post creation, but holy shit there was DEFINITELY some people actively starting shit. If I had anywhere else to go to feel like an accepted leftist I probably would have. The bullying really activated my fight response because it had the same energy as the traumatic shit I went through where the bullies had the powers-that-be behind them and knew they wouldn't face any consequences. I'm aggressive as hell with the enemy, but man I couldn't hold a candle to a lot of stuff being said. Nobody was stepping back and listening, just fucking accusatory baiting.
So I to made a thread that would try to humanize everyone and remind us we're on the SAME TEAM and I actually wanted to know more about. Helped me calm down, but the fact remains that I feel like I would be thrown under the bus at any second by my allies for not passing every purity test. I'm sure that isn't an exclusive feeling. Call me a class reductionist, but we have history to fight. Not each other.
Trans girl. I absolutely hated and LOATHED those repulsive allies. No material help, stupid radical liberalism presented with the most hateful narcissism and character assassination. I hope they rot. Go ahead and ban me for “being a terf”.
I am a class reductionist. All the best trans girls I’ve met are. I’m proud to be a class reductionist. So is Amber.
Love to be screamed at and called a TERF for not selecting a drop down in settings
Saw a comment in the resolution thread earlier, grandstanding how we can grow as a community by being more polite when calling out reactionaries in the future. May just be irony-poisioning but I felt the urge to tell them to log off. But instead I did that myself, cooked some and practiced the guitar. And it felt good.
Probably laying low, i popped in to complain about maoist struggle sessions (newsflash, the same people paroting the rhetoric like to ignore that it was used against gay and transpeople) and the people who regardless of ideology also lick mod boot after purges (you see it all the time on sites like reddit and ah) and was immediately banned for transphobia. Apparently asking for a bad/bitch after seeing there was a deer option went too far. I'll be making a chapoauto.zone splinter forum when the lemmy integration is done lol.
How can one "see" people becoming alienated if the alienation leads them to not engage with threads or post, isn't that just an assumption then, the whole struggle session took like what 7 threads over the course of two days, I easily ignored all of them, wasn't that hard
Y'all sound a little butthurt
How can one “see” people becoming alienated if the alienation leads them to not engage with threads or post
It means "i predict with a high degree of certainty"
“i predict with a high degree of certainty”
So in other words, a butthurt assumption based on nothing but hurt feelings
Also you're not 90u9y8gb9t86vytv97g, let them speak on it
I'm telling you what that turn of phrase means and their pronouns are "they" dickhead
The word "see" is a 'turn of phrase' now, since when? And what do their pronouns have to do with anything?
They made a claim about folks getting alienated and I'm asking for proof, why y'all being weird
Edit: THEY
And what do their pronouns have to do with anything?
He made a claim
He
He
Are you fucking serious
Yeah that was a genuine whoops on my part, see I can own my mistakes, you don't see me getting all resentful and butthurt about it
The word “see” is a ‘turn of phrase’ now, since when?
"I can see [thing i predict will happen]" has been a turn of phrase in english for centuries
That's not a turn of phrase, that's just a declarative sentence, also are you like their significant other or something?
Like damn kiss-ass let them explain it for themself
That’s not a turn of phrase, that’s just a declarative sentence
You didn't know what it meant 20 minutes ago bud
also are you like their significant other or something?
No
Like damn kiss-ass let them explain it for themself
It's an incredibly widely used phrase
lol I understood perfectly what they meant, I was contesting their claim and asking for PROOF, that's why I put "see" in quotation marks because I wanted to know where they had come across these made-up alienated people mad about pronoun struggle sessions
No
Goddamn Shrek in shiny armor over here
lol I understood perfectly what they meant, I was contesting their claim and asking for PROOF, that’s why I put “see” in quotation marks because I wanted to know where they had come across these made-up alienated people mad about pronoun struggle sessions
How can one “see” people becoming alienated if the alienation leads them to not engage with threads or post
Looks like you took it literally to me mate
Goddamn Shrek in shiny armor over here
What does that even mean
Looks like you took it literally to me mate
Yes, I took the obvious declarative statement literally, as in they had "seen" people making posts or comments describing their deeply felt alienation over a boring-ass struggle session, and not simply talking out their ass making wild assume-oh I'm sorry "prEdiCtiOns" about shit they're just guessing is happening..somewhere??? You do realize your reading of their comment makes them look dumb af right?
What does that even mean
It means you're gonna get your swamp back, congratulations
You still can't accept that "I can see [thing]" means "I predict" huh?
It means you’re gonna get your swamp back, congratulations
That didn't make it any clearer
You still can’t accept that “I can see [thing]” means “I predict” huh?
If I didn't think their sentence meant "I predict" I wouldn't have called it an assumption, and you still can't accept that regardless of whether it's a prediction, its still a declarative statement about something that will happen, not a "turn of phrase" I was being generous and assuming they had something to BACK UP THEIR DECLARATIVE PREDICTION, but you are right they were just making a baseless conjecture
How can one “see” people becoming alienated if the alienation leads them to not engage with threads or post
That definitely looks like you thought they meant seeing with their eyeballs
And you still haven't explained the shrek thing
Uh yes, their prediction can't be confirmed if nobody actually sees the alienation they're predicting taking place, which makes their claim unfalsifiable horseshit, which is why I had assumed they had seen something to back that prediction up, and led to me asking them WHAT WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
Which led to you misunderstanding what the term "turn of phrase" means
Which led to me making a pronoun Faux pas, largely because I confused your pronouns with theirs?
Which led to you revealing you didn't have a childhood since you don't know what Shrek is
Which led to me explaining the basics of ENG 12 to you
Which led to you somehow assuming I hadn't realized they were making a prediction despite the fact I had indeed realized that the whole time, which is why I asked that question in my first comment
Did I miss anything, holy shit what a dumb fuckin thread
since you don’t know what Shrek is
I know what it is, i don't know wtf you meant by calling me "shrek in tiny armour"
And it is a turn of phrase
Autocorrect "corrects" MY comments when YOU receive them? I highly doubt that, stop fronting you got mad so you read too fast, it's ok happens to the best of us 👍
No you bellend, it autocorrected MY comment when I typed shiny
So you literally don't know what the phrase "Knight in Shining Armor" means? Lol that's even funnier, is that a British thing?
I know what knight in shining armour means, dunno what the fuck shrek has to do with it
Shrek wore armor to save the Princess from the sexy Dragon in the movie, you're Shrek, I'm the Dragon and WHOEVER THE FUCK I was responding to originally before you decided to butt in lmao is the gender-neutral princess
Edit: Who the fuck is this third wheel who keeps downvoting along with you, bitch do you know how deep we are in this shit thread, stop following us
Not "defending them" at any point in this conversation, but ok
Edit: and I'm not downvoting you, except the two misgendering comments up top
This thread is literally on their behalf, that is LOVE bruh and don't you deny it
and I’m not downvoting you, except the two misgendering comments up top
So there's two of them huh, damn got yourself a Donkey and Puss-y in Boots
This thread is literally on their behalf
I just stated the meaning of the turn of phrase they used because it looked like you didn't know what it meant.
Then you somehow managed to misgender them twice, when we all have our pronouns right next to our names, in a thread about a fucking pronoun struggle session.
You then argued that "I can see [thing i predict]" isn't a turn of phrase (it is)
Then you accused me of "white knighting" but tried to be cute about it
That's it
That's all this thread is
Does "turn of phrase" mean something different in British land, you literally don't know what the term means, since you confused a declarative statement that used the word "see" as an Intransitive Verb, there is no expression being used, they clearly thought they would literally see (as in the action of seeing regarding the action of reading) a state of alienation as a result of the struggle session
If they used the word "see" as an idiom then their comment is gibberish
Then you somehow managed to misgender them twice,
Yeah I don't know any trans people in real life so this doesn't come easily, I have to think and check before I type, and I got your pronouns stuck in my head instead thanks to your reflexive white knighting
Then you accused me of “white knighting”
Want me to say it again
"I can see [thing i predict]" is an idiomatic way of saying "i predict [thing i predict]" which is what a turn of phrase is
And i literally have not defended them at all in this entire thread, go back and read it.
It's not idiomatic, "I can see" is a positive declarative statement using an INTRANSITIVE VERB "see" to lead into another positive declarative statement in the form of a prediction, there's no "turning" because the phrase was already clear, there's no allusion
It's almost like the term is devoid of content and only makes sense when used as a synonym for "idiom"
Never!
Also fuck me, i can barely read this it's so squashed lol
you're right, but at the same time they should keep going because it's hilarious
So you now argue that turn of phrase doesn't mean anything when proven wrong?
LolIt only means something when used as a synonym for "idiom" which is why I've been disagreeing with you this whole time, THEY did not use an idiom which is why I asked them if they had anything to back up their declarative statement/prediction, then you went CRAZY!!! or as the brits say BONKERS!!! and tried to lop my head off
Well nephew I hope you learned a valuable lesson today
I CAN SEE THING HAPPENING IS A TURN OF PHRASE
YOU SAID IT ISN'T A TURN OF PHRASE
THAT IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN ARGUING
AND YOUR WEIRD DEFLECTIONS INTO MY NON EXISTENT WHITE KNIGHTING THAT I HAVENT BEEN DOING
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIt's a turn of phrase if you have a dumb definition of the term "turn of phrase"
I have a superior definition, which means I win
You can consider school out of session 👍
The election is basically over, Trump beating covid has created a wave of disappointment, and the struggle sessions are kinda boring
This is a predominately political forum and everything in politics is currently lame af
Yeah, I think we're in a holding pattern til November.
Nothing wrong with that.
Despite a fascist being potus, this has to be the lamest presidential battle ever.
It's dominating a lot of the energy here. They've banned what 5 people?
More than that but at least half of thwm are alts. Those are the terminally online posters though so activity has plummeted
Maybe everyone who participated in the sesh are too burnt out to post, or something like that? I wouldn't know, I just read the threads.
Yeah, I just felt the day as a whole seemed slow, but might have just been because there were so many comments yesterday. I imagine the number of comments made was at least few times larger than usual? All those threads had hundreds of comments.
Probably laying low, i popped in to complain about maoist struggle sessions (newsflash, the same people paroting the rhetoric like to ignore that it was used against gay and transpeople) and the people who regardless of ideology also lick mod boot after purges (you see it all the time on sites like reddit and ah) and was immediately banned for transphobia. Apparently asking for a bad/bitch after seeing there was a deer option went too far. I’ll be making a chapoauto.zone splinter forum when the lemmy integration is done lol.
An ACTUAL TRANS PERSON?!?! You mean the lowest most hated minority (read most beautiful noble minority???)
Well in that case, we better all jump on the neopronoun train. After all, a beautiful wretch wanted it. So how on earth could ANYONE possibly think it’s stupid.
You’re not a hero, fucking radlib🥺
After any orgy, its good to take a nap, drink water, and replenish your electrolytes. Self care is recommended by 9/10 hexabears.
Not to me but I've been busy admiring the mushroom posting trend in c/gardening the last couple days
I have no idea what caused that. I'll ask the devs what it could be. But since it was corrected I suspect maybe some buggy code being pushed to prod and then getting corrected.
