I agree if they mean it in the Elon "let's heckin colonize Mars and build an epic bitcoin utopia" sense, but I don't see the issue in wanting to explore space out of a sense of curiosity and wonder.
More often than not, I think you might end up with the first type of dude on your date these days.
"Wow, that's the planet we own. And none of those people get to go up here like I do. This rules!"
Well i won't tolerate such disrespect of a hero of humanity and champion of socialism
so I don't think me and Ms Rodrigo would be a good fit. Just canceled my upcoming date with her.I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
You want to go to space to live in a shitty mars colony and maintain capitalism by exploiting space based resources, I want to go to space so that i can be the first human to meet, fall in love with, marry, and raise a family with my alien boyfriend. We arent the same.
I want to go to space to chop up ships to pay off my debt that I got from signing up for a predatory loan to finance cloning tech so I can chop up ships
Pretty good litmus test tbh. Anything more than "I guess it'd be cool to see the earth from orbit but that's about it" usually turns into this weird space eugenics type shit.
Unless your answer is "it'd be cool to live in that anarchist space station/meteor wreckage thing from that one episode of cowboy bebop where they meet that chess master" then going to space is cool
There's two types of Space Guys
The ones that want to be an officer aboard some space navy warship fighting against aliens and doing space eugenics and colonizer shit
Or the ones who see things like Firefly and The Expanse and just wanna chill doing cool outlaw labour shit in space
Or the ones who see things like Firefly and The Expanse and just wanna chill doing cool outlaw labour shit in space
There's also a lot of math and science nerds that want to infodump about cycler orbits and play a lot of kerbal space program
those things are very much not as different as you'd like to think
It's crazy some people are THAT obsessed with the guy they equate him with the entire space industry.
The space industry is basically filled with ElMos;
, the space walk billionaire guy that owns a defense company that specializes in airstrikes, virgin galactic virgin-Cola guy.You can bring up NASA all you want, it doesn't change the fact that they're (sadly) a minority in an industry that is being overtaken by techbros with no actual scientific education. They just throw money at it and get starving professors and graduates to do the actual work.
I think the billionaires are the minority considering there is the CNSA, Roscosmos, ESA, and the ISRO
Focusing purely on NASA is very USAmerica centricIt's the only argument I hear whenever it's brought up online.
I agree with government space agencies, I hate the space industry however. Unfortunately the future is going to be the global encroachment of these private companies into the public sector. Similar to what has happened to NASA.
I really only see China pushing back against this.
https://payloadspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/2023-Global-Launches-993x640.png
"Me born off planet catching strays"
Though I mean.... I am full of myself
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Imagining a guy who doesn’t want to colonize space because there’s no aliens to genocide
Go the Exo-Squad route. Colonize Mars and genetically engineer a race of superhumans to survive the harsh conditions. Then become terrified of your Mars-Engineered Children, reclassify them as a hostile alien species, and spend the next five years doing interstellar pogroms in cool mechs.
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: Well, it's not like I'd be interested in someone whose soul is held down by Earth's gravity anyways.he'll go to space to look for space alien girls and get rejected by them on the first date too
Damn, that's the one and only reason I wont date Olivia rodrigo
It's hard to gauge her reasoning from the tabloid-tier tweeting but I agree with her prognosis. Space tourism in its current state is an extremely selfish endeavour with the resources required to send someone beyond earth's atmosphere, let alone bring them back alive. At worst her heart is in the right space.
Seeing the cost of ISS per person per day makes me wonder how many of these goofballs think they're gonna get to go
I'm reposting my previous comment on another post about space. Here it is.
I don't care about space bc:
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We need to save our planet first before we can think about moving anywhere else.
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We have no sustainable human civilizations in Antarctica or under water, we should prioritize building in/on the most inhospitable parts before we think about other planets.
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I honestly don't care about billionaires' pet projects and I don't find any inspiration in their space walks and vanity visits. We know this is all meant for the most wealthy and will not be accessible to the masses (besides the purpose of slave labor). You won't catch me giving a solitary fuck about space when it comes from a scientist's mouth, let alone a politician.
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We have wars and genocides, we have starvation and pandemics of preventable illnesses. We have so much more pressing issues than space travel.
I stand with what I posted, I really dgaf about space in any way shape or form. It's just bazinga brain shit from A to Z unless you're an actual astrophysicist doing research.
Edit: I have an amendment for number 2, what I mean is: if we can't even build on Antarctica or underwater, why should anyone believe we are going to build settlements on another planet?
"I can't lift 45 kg at the gym, but I'm going to try to lift the 90 kg weights anyway."
I don't think you understand the point of space exploration.
The goal isn't "moving anywhere else". There has never been a serious proposal to move a large number of people to a different planet for a long period of time. The point of space travel isn't evacuation, it is improving life on earth. Space travel involves a series of extraordinarily difficult challenges that result in useful spinoff technologies. It is true that things like docking two ships in space doesn't improve anyone's life, but that requires quickly pulsing lasers that were later used for LASIK. Spacewalks might not be inspiring, but the insulation used in spacesuits has been used to develop space blankets which are undeniably useful. I don't think we will save the planet without space exploration because it has lead to things like solar panels, GPS, weather detection, improved ability to quantify climate change, improved water production, and other things. Space exploration is a positive venture, not because it allows humans to leave earth, but because it makes our lives better.
Space exploration isn't that expensive either. The most well funded space program in the world costs 20bil/yr, and the most it ever cost was 50bil/yr. For reference, this is a rounding error compared to defense. I agree that we have much more pressing issues, but those are a result of capitalism, not poor resource allocation. Currently and historically, socialist societies have understood the value of research and spinoff technologies and have invested into socialist technologies.
I agree that billionaire space programs accomplish next to nothing, though.
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It does often signal a bit of "the problems on Earth don't matter and there's nothing and no one there that I care about" selfishness and a whole lot of juvenile escapism on top of that
That's my unironic take as well.
I think it's not ethical under capitalism to be throwing this much money into space while people's basic needs aren't met.
It would probably take a luxury space gay communism type thing for me to visit other planets, because even if a socialist society where people's needs are met hypothetically would want me to assist their space program, my skill set would very likely be more useful here on Earth.
Even to go to orbit, it would take a fairly advanced socialist society perhaps where orbital flight is a viable means of planetary transportation to the general public to be ethical IMHO
Addendum: This isn't to say that space programs themselves are 100% unethical even under capitalism — they've definitely helped life on Earth so far by necessity of new materials that withstand extreme conditions. Elon's bazinga tourism is 100% unethical though.
because your bowls need gravity to work on their own
