143000 votes for a guy with literal brain worms who isn't even running for president anymore
This is why any talk of democracy in this country is pointless without systematic mass education.
That show is BS. Everyone is conventionally attractive which ruins the point of the show!
they rightfully feared what would happen if white people saw PSL as an option (they love pumpkin spice)
i mean more likely the PSL registered her campaign as independent because the barrier for registering as a political party is higher
Technically she was on the Peace and Freedom Party, not the same org but they have ballot access in CA so they accepted de la Cruz as their candidate. Still, it should at least be PAF or something.
Here in [Southern State], de la Cruz was on the ballot on the [Southern State] Workers' Party. You do what you have to for ballot access.
It would be nice if the Greens just endorsed the PSL ticket next time around. It sounds like Stein didn't even want to have to run, and it's pretty clear there is no one else in the GP that can fill the ticket, given the shit show around Cornel West. It's not like PSL's platform is at odds with the Greens in any way.
the shit show around Cornel West
I'm out of the loop, what happened?
I'm not super in the loop either, but I've heard some interviews on podcasts like Bad Faith, specifically the interview with Stein's running mate Butch (I believe it was "Episode 411 - You're Not a Democrat w/ Dr. Butch Ware").
Basically, this time around Dr. Jill Stein didn't really want to run so the party was looking for another candidate to endorse. Cornel West was running under the People's Party who had very limited ballot access, so he was happy to use the GP's platform and ballot access to expand his reach, media profile, and support base, but when it came time to follow party protocols and work within their framework he apparently didn't like being told what to do, so he did a hard break with them and started yet another party. At which point the Greens basically had to scramble and get Stein to run again so they could retain their ballot access for next time around. Just sounds like a total shit show.
I forget what I read that convinced me of it initially but I don't think cornel west is a good faith actor at all. Wrecker/grifter shit all around, and I don't have much more faith in any of the people that promoted him
https://xcancel.com/CornelWest/status/23848928873021440
Cornel West
8 Jan 2011
Ronald Reagan was a freedom fighter in terms of supporting our Jewish bros & sis in the Soviet Union & opposing vicious forms of communism.
Absolutely, I've pretty much come to the same conclusion about him. He looooved the media attention, happy to be on the cable news channels acting as one of their talking heads. I'd put money on him being hired as an MSNBC political contributor within the next 5 years.
It's not like PSL's platform is at odds with the Greens in any way.
The greens are not ready to be pro-China. However, they should still do it.
Is PSL even strictly "pro-China" tho? Of course they have critical support for them as a multi-polar force and are very opposed to escalating tensions with them since PSL is anti-war. But I would imagine that the party still has its criticisms of Dengism in a purely ideological sense.
wait, GOP is their official party acronym? Grand Old Party? The Dem party is older lol
Naw, they used to be one party, the Democratic-Republican party. They grew out of the Anti-Federalist Party and outlasted the Federalists. In the 1824 election, they were the only party in the US. They ended up fracturing in two, creating the Democratic party and the Whig/Republican party.
The full severing of the political parties would occur just prior to the Civil War where Whigs splintered over slavery while Democrats supported it. Anti-slavery Whigs and Republicans consolidated together as the Whig factions further separated from each other.
So the "Grand Old Party" is a splinter faction of a splinter faction that can trace its roots back to the original parties of post-Revolution America. Republicans and Democrats are technically the same age.
It is, I just looked it up, strange. I also learned that the color red wasn't strongly associated with them until 2000.
I also learned that the color red wasn't strongly associated with them until 2000.
This is the weirdest and most infuriating of all the empty little symbol stuff. Historically election maps just kind of used random colors in the US because none of the parties had traditional color associations, but because one newscaster talked about "the red states" when pointing at a map where Bush was represented with red and the states in question were literally just colored red on the map, now the GOP has the left's color and the Democrats have the traditional color of elite reactionaries and as stupid and meaningless as this is it's just so annoying especially because the Democrats really do just want to be snooty aristocratic elites and they do insufferable left punching based on associating their even-more-reactionary liberal counterparts in the GOP with the left to smear them.
It'd be like if American political parties somehow adopted the hammer and sickle through some galaxy brain "hammer=judge's gavel=law and order" and "sickle=agricorp subsidies" logic: meaningless and empty, but offensive appropriation all the same.
Yet another way to sever the connection between the US and the global left to have the color red be associated with conservatism. Just like how the US celebrates fake Labor Day instead of May 1.
And here I thought it was weird seeing the blue Trump signs and green Dem signs this past election. Guess it's never made sense.
This might a small W but it’s a W nonetheless. The Libertarian Party is the most popular and best organized third party in the US, by a long shot. They have decades of work put in, not to mention ideologically they are very compatible with (white, middle/upper class) American superstructure. And Chase Oliver is objectively their best candidate they’ve fielded in maybe ever. He’s articulate and is good at emphasizing the least bad aspects of the ideology, like being anti-war and anti-MIC. For a Marxist-Leninist party that’s only gotten big recently and doesn’t even focus on electoralism, that’s honestly a great showing.
Though, this seems to be the Libertarians's worst election in a while. I wonder where their voters went. Surely they were aware that Kennedy dropped out?
Maybe they did, maybe they didn't, they are libertarians after all.
It doesn't matter that someone "dropped out". Third parties are a way to have your political views counted. Same as voting for PSL or the Green Party.
in the california what huh? didn't that shit happen?
who care?We also voted to legalize slavery, limit rent control and increase prison sentences for drug possession
This has been an absolutely devastating election in so many ways.
Chase Oliver
John Oliver's distant Texas cousin
Show
(he is 39 years old)
Whoah hell yeah. And nearly 50k? Does that mean commiefornia is responsible for half of PSL's votes or has the total gone well past 100k?
Being right on the cusp of 50K is genuinely huge for American leftism
