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  • Mardoniush [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    There already is more agitation than the 1940s, Labour strikes in the US are going off rn. The latest Bad Faith had Boots Riley explain why it's not hitting the news, even in left outlets.

    • crime [she/her, any]
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      4 years ago

      If you're up for an effortpost, can you summarize it for those of us who hate podcasts as a medium?

    • UnironicWarCriminal [any]
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      There already is more agitation than the 1940s, Labour strikes in the US are going off rn

      Almost like something happened from 1941 to 1945 that made labor agitation go to zero.

      Strike days are up a lot in the past 2 years, but they are still well below what an "average" year was even in the 80s.

      https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2020/mobile/25-major-work-stoppages-in-2019-involving-425500-workers.htm

      • Mardoniush [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        Those are stoppages in large companies, not total strikes. As the economy becomes more service based strikes have become smaller and workplace-centred. Also because unions are shit many strikes in 2020 were wildcat and might not be recorded at all.

        https://redflag.org.au/node/7096

        https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/wave-of-1000-strikes-ripples-across-the-us-as-crisis-bites-20200929-p5606t.html

        Also, I was referring to the late 40s, when a wave of strikes occurred due to post war austerity and economic rationalisation.

        • UnironicWarCriminal [any]
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          4 years ago

          You just posted a bunch of anecdotes about wildcat strikes, which the article itself even mentions were also widespread during times of mass action! We don't have apples to apples comparisons other than large actions, and it's not like large actions replaced wildcat strikes in decades past - they complimented each other, or had different motivations in a lot of cases (radical Boomer kids at GM in the early 70s going on wildcat strikes over the nature of work vs more direct material concerns, for example)

          It's a start, but the idea that labor power is anywhere near where it was even 25 years ago is completely bullshit. I don't think a lot of Leftists understand how completely mainstream the idea of a strike was even a generation ago. It wasn't considered revolutionary praxis, it was just a part of life.

  • BreadPrices [he/him,comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    Look retail jobs are for kids who still live with their parents and already get fed. If you work one of these jobs you can't expect meals every single day. If you're hungry you should have learned a trade.

  • Straight_Depth [they/them]
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    Even while America is being ripped apart under the direct throes of a massive shooting civil war between different popular groups and the FedGov, with states splitting and seceding and multiple levels of government collapsing or taking sides, the foreign imperialism, drone strikes, coups, assassinations, threats and sanctions will continue without the slightest sign of abating.

  • ValliumOverdose [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I understand where this is coming from and it's good to acknowledge that we're fighting an uphill battle, but don't lose hope.

  • Iminhere3000 [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Jesus, this is why I hate the online left or whatever so much. Y'all are a bunch of whinny losers. When there is a famine or riots in the streets, yes I'm sure you won't do shit and all of your white collar office buddies won't either. I'm sure matt Christman will be doing vlogs about how you should just grill and chill too.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      4 years ago

      Is the Venn Diagram of Edgelord Leftist and Fun Policeman a circle? Or can I apply some kind of horseshoe theory to rope in all the Calvinists and right-wing Yoga enthusiasts?

  • penguin_von_doom [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    A revolution can only happen when the conditions are right, and that includes when the elite is fractured and weak, so it cannot continue neither leading, nor enforcing its legitimacy. Things like famines, financial crises and the like, and most importantly - the way that the power handles them, is a big thing in this process.

  • opposide [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    As a climatologist let me just say that America’s growing zones and seasons are especially vulnerable to collapse in a bad growing season. Unfortunately, most of these zones will be affected simultaneously in most bad years. America’s only buffer to famine are huge amounts of money to buy food and a huge amount of land to potentially pump out the bare minimums.

    Will they use this vast sum of money to help the people? Probably not.

    • quartz242 [she/her]M
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      4 years ago

      More likely the meat and dairy industries will get bailed out as the food lines shift to providing cheap meat slurry, shelf milk, and canned foods.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      4 years ago

      The US produces foodstuff in such obscene surplus that the real effect of famine won't show up for some time.

      What we have to worry about is the day some investment asshole discovers he can "disrupt" the grocery store business by shutting down all the ones in the poor neighborhoods and tripling prices in rich neighborhoods.

      Then a profit spike finances a cascade of vulture capitalist consolidation and price explosion. Meanwhile, mass media will insist it was the consumer's fault for eating unsustainably, and the responsible thing to do is yell at brown people for being too fat.

      • opposide [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        It would have to be a years long cascade but that’s not even close to impossible

      • BillyMays [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Tripling all the ones in rich neighborhoods

        Erewhon

        Shutting Down all the ones in the poor neighborhoods

        More food deserts.

    • ToastGhost [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      When the people have nothing more on the brunch menu, they will eat the rich.

    • UnironicWarCriminal [any]
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      Who do you think "they" is? Brunch liberals aren't the ones who will starve.

      Covid is a crisis, yet the majority of Americans don't know anyone who's died of it. Bad things can happen without the majority being directly effected.

  • YoungSophocles [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    And yet I see more and more people irl being radicalized as the days go by... do I trust the evidence or????

    • Des [she/her, they/them]
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      4 years ago

      there are active, well funded organizations staffed by hundreds who's sole mission is to convince you that nobody is being radicalized and all your problems are your own.

  • Abraxiel
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    4 years ago

    We struggle anyway. You want no political repercussions? Go lie down and avoid discomfort. I'll be out here trying every day to keep the people around me fed and alive, because even if we can't win, it's the only thing I can bear to do.

  • Koa_lala [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I don't think we can or should rely on horrible material conditions alone. There's too much evidence in history of people enduring hell without much resistance.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      4 years ago

      Your NHS is like our Social Security.

      Concervatives run on protecting it, then just inflate the cost through privatization. Only the Liberals can destroy it, by insisting it's the responsible thing to do.