You know some of these people going "how could they give it a 9 or a 10?" are the same people that attacked and harassed anyone that gave it a score lower than a 9 before it came out lol
Just a thought, maybe some reviewers aren't fans of getting death threats for giving unreleased games a "horrible" 7/10 score, so they just spike the score slightly in order to avoid that.
There are bad reviewers, of course, but honestly, I can't say for sure I would be an impartial reviewer if I knew I could get doxxed and harrased for giving something a 7/10 -- I'd just give it an 8 and be done with it.
gam*rs are so triggered by numbers that they turned 7/10 into "average", 10/10 into "good", and 5/10 into "dogshit." It's so ridiculous that they care that much.
My hypothesis on this is that it’s because g*mers start reading game reviews when they’re still in school, where 70% is “acceptable but barely” 80% is “good but not great” and 90% is “great”, which informs their perception of review scores
Its because of access journalism. Game magazines give inflated scores in exchange for review copies and interviews
Which is, itself, fucking insane. Just get the game at release and review it.
Oh, wait. You can't. Because everyone will have forgotten this game exists in a month. If you don't have access to the demos, you can't get your review to print during the ad blitz, and you won't have an audience that gives a shit about your review because they'll be on to the next shiny thing.
Now remember that every major media outlet does this, except with politicians and corporations
7/10 into “average”, 10/10 into “good”, and 5/10 into “dogshit.” It’s so ridiculous that they care that much.
I have never seen this as a problem. It stands to reason that people will always pre-screen the content they play and TRY to only play things that are at worst 7/10 in their pre-screen. Because of this you can generally assume that companies will TRY not to release anything that doesn't hit a 7/10.
As a result you get 7/10 being the rough standard for "average".
I would agree with 5/10 being the average if everyone's consumption of media and the industry's output were completely random. However it skews higher because it is not random, people pre-screen the content they consume because they have limited hours in a day to play games and want to play the games that they already think they're going to enjoy beforehand.
You see the same thing in anime reviewing over on mal/anilist too. People skew to 7/10 as their average because they're actively avoiding anything that they think will be below that in their pre-judgement of what they might want to watch next.
Funniest thing about this saga was that the game was announced back in 2012, before anyone knew what the ps4 would look like and everyone thought the new Xbox would be called the Xbox 720. Yet it doesn't even work properly on a ps4 or Xbox one. How is this even possible, like wtf
Because for some reason they announced it before they had any idea what it would even look like lmao
so completely backwards. you're supposed to announce games when you're nearly done with them, partly because development takes so goddamn long that there's no point announcing as soon as you've confirmed you're gonna make the game
Announcing a game before I even know what consoles or pc hardware it's going to run on. Pro move 😎😎😎
The only consoles it runs well on are Xbox Series X and PS5 and the funny thing is that it's not even an Xbox Series X or PS5 game, it's running the current-gen version in backward compatibility mode.
Not that you could get a next-gen console right now since scalpers have bought them all.
So the "next gen graphics patch" isn't even out yet. Lol
Remember when Jim Sterling was harassed because he gave BOTW a fucking 7/10? G*mers found a way to try to link that score with him being an "SJW" as well because he was anti-G*merGate as if the two are at all fucking related.
These are the same people who will review bomb a Baldur's Gate g*me because there's a minor NPC who was trans and give it a fucking 0/10.
Videog*mes were a mistake.
watching jim sterling videos when I was younger was what introduced me to vaguely anti-capitalist thought
It really is remarkable how much capitalism fucked this game over lol. It could have been something great but the profit motive got in the way.
I mean, it’s probably not a bad game at its heart. It just needed more development time to iron out the bugs.
It’ll be probably fine in half a year after a few patches. Since it’s the biggest game of the year, I don’t see that CDPR abandoning it.
Well, it depends since it's a single-player game with no in-game purchases (that I'm aware of) -- so there's no profit motive for them to fix it entirely.
I guess it depends on how many units they think they can sell in the future. With the PS5 and XSX versions coming in 2021, they might fix the game in order to sell the next-gen versions.
They might also conclude that leaving the game broken might hurt their future releases, so they'll probably fix it up enough that people aren't angry anymore.
Witcher 3 had a super long lifetime with two expansions, that'll keep bugfixing going for a few years alongside the DLC.
Studio reputation is a pretty big profit motive. If they fix the game people will be more likely to buy their next title. If they don't...
No Man's Sky completely put in the work to make their game what they originally promised it would be. I don't know if 2077 will go the same way.
I am once again asking you to be an adult
Sadly that’s too much to expect from g*mers 🙄
I mean, they should turn on it. It honestly shouldn't have been released for legacy consoles, and CDPR should have held it for six months to work on it and be up front about it not working on legacy consoles.
But, between Gamers threatening and beshitting themselves over a comparatively tiny delay, and capitalism demanding it come out on the widest array possible, this whole thing was completely predictable.
Also, gamers blaming reviewers is the dumbest shit. Reviewers get death threats if they do an honest review, so the pressure is there to give gmers what they want. It's entirely their own fault, and they cannot process that at all, so somehow they manage to blame the groups they already hate.
Turns out that when you make a game that can't run properly on any console or any PC that's not high end most people can't actually play it and will have a negative opinion of the game. This is the reason they only allowed reviewers access to the PC version, it artificially drove review scores upwards because oviously the reviewers will be playing it on their high end PC's and won't experience the problems the other 90%+ of people playing the game will.
Yep, every post on r/cyberpunkgame is basically criticizing the game (often quite validly - but it's still funny knowing how these same people were acting 3 days ago).
There is even some Metacritic downvoting -- it's at 6.5 user score right now (2.5 for consoles), TLOU2 for comparison is at 5.7 and you know how much that game was brigaded.
It's pretty hilarious over there. Half the posts are "fuck these scammers I deserve a refund!" And the other half are "am I the only one enjoying the game?"
It actually runs pretty well on my original model Xbox one. I think people are just being fucking babies because it's buggy and wasn't everything they hoped it would be.
Everything I've heard is that the PS4 has worse performance than the Xbox one. Basically High end PC >Xbox X/PS5>Xbox one>>>>PS4.
For sure PS4 performance is dreadful. Game looks like trash and crashes once an hour.
i haven't played it myself but from what i've seen it seems pretty egregious that there is no driving AI at all and the cops spawn like 10 feet behind you. that's stuff that GTA SA had worked out in 2004, it does not seem unreasonable to expect it in a title from 2020
There are some driving NPCs but definitely not like GTA levels. It does take me out of the world a tiny bit but I'm playing more for the story than the GTA stuff. I do wish there were more pedestrians since the city is supposed to be overpopulated. Then again I'd probably be accidentally mowing then down with my car left and right.
I'm sittin here laughing just like I was for No Man's Sky
how could it have been any different?
They should have shot for a more realistic timeframe, maybe cyberpunk 2027?
I'm enjoying my time with the game but I've been high for 100% of the playthrough
same, been watching my roomate play it
the game is so broke ass its hilarious and a great time, in the same way your car burning on the side of the road is a good time. Nothin to do but enjoy the bonfire I suppose
I just had literally all the npcs driving clipped through a thin wall and yelling shit! because their car was damaged
I wouldn’t be surprised if more then half of the outrage is because they have played the game long enough to get to the trans characters now.
There's also like... Literally nothing wrong with it? It's nothing revolutionary but it's a very good near future GTA game with a decent story and above average combat mechanics.
The only legitimate criticism is performance on older hardware being poor, but like... it's a brand new game what the fuck did you expect trying to run it on a launch model PS4? If you're really desperate to play it but you don't have a good PC or a new console then get it on Stadia!
The games development is literally older than the ps4, they announced it in 2012 before we even knew what the ps4 and Xbox one would look like. No excuse for it not to work properly on last gen. Also the next gen versions aren't even out on ps5 and Xbox Series X yet, the only reason they have better performance is brute forcing it though backwards compatibility. What's the point of making a game that you need a 1000 USD PC to play, then most people can't play it.
But why announce it then? Announcing a game before you even have anything resembling a product to release is never going to end well
The journalist could've died or gotten injured from a seizure from one of those videos due to their epilepsy being as severe as it is.
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whos chance of doing something is less than zero.
Threatening innocent people is unequivocally bad even if there's is no intent to follow through
non existent threat
Threats were made, I agree with you it's unlikely anyone would follow through on them, but that's irrelevant
Honestly your argument sounds a lot like the reactionary 'slurs are just words, they can't hurt you, buck up' bullshit
Except g*mers did follow though in a way, they sent videos meant to trigger epileptic seizures disguised as support messages to a journalist who complained about a scene in cyberpunk 2077 that caused them to have a seizure. Yes it's online and not "real world", but it still could have seriously injured the journalist
Have you ever been on the receiving end of an online hate mob? Have you ever woken up to see a hundred new DMs of people saying they're going to rape you, telling you to kill yourself, etc? Have you ever had people post your personal information online, including your number? Have you had nasty voice mails left of your phone? Nasty messages sent to friends or relatives? Have you had people email your employer trying to get you fired? Have you had aspects of your personal life collected on drama/harassment forums where people's sole goal is to try to ruin your life?
Yes, people likely aren't going to actually come to your house and murder you but that shit is extremely taxing and stressful. Honestly, until you've experienced that type of behaviour you should shut the fuck up about it.
Even tiny hate mobs, if dedicated, can really fuck you up mentally/ emotionally.
Let me quote the post you replied to:
Have you ever been on the receiving end of an online hate mob? Have you ever woken up to see a hundred new DMs of people saying they’re going to rape you, telling you to kill yourself, etc? Have you ever had people post your personal information online, including your number? Have you had nasty voice mails left of your phone? Nasty messages sent to friends or relatives? Have you had people email your employer trying to get you fired? Have you had aspects of your personal life collected on drama/harassment forums where people’s sole goal is to try to ruin your life?
Wow, so you experienced all of this at a public school? No?
Then refer to the last part of my post chud:
Honestly, until you’ve experienced that type of behaviour you should shut the fuck up about it.
Just because you block someone on twitter doesn't mean those people can't make a new account, or you don't end up seeing those messages nor does it stop people from finding your personal information on one of the many shitty harassment sites that exist on the internet.
This isn't a fucking dichotomy where one of either online harassment and "in real life" harassment can be bad. It doesn't fucking matter if they're "the same," that's not he bar for whether online harassment is a bad fucking thing or not.
But yeah, continue with the victim blaming shit my dude.
Because you're a lying sack of shit. I don't give a fuck about civility shitlib.
go back to cancelling karens (and incels) on twitter
Yeah dude talking about how bad online hate mobs can be is the same thing as "cancelling" people, get a fucking clue.
Sure dude, but you can't really tell people how to react to death threats and dox attacks, might not bother you (even tho you probably never had thousands of people threaten and harras you, so you can't be 100% sure), but they might bother other people.
I personally am unbothered by online bullying and stuff like that, I can tune it all out, I really don't care what someone calls me online. But we've all seen people kill themselves, harm themselves, or just in general be affected horribly by cyberbullying and shit like that, so it's really dumb to just dismiss it like "oh it's just neckbeards, who cares."
I think the volume of attacks makes a big impact too. It's easier to brush away one asshole saying something nasty to you, but if you're getting 50 messages an hour threatening you or trying to goad you into self harm, it can get extremely fucking taxing. And if you happen to be in a comment section where those people are ganging up on you it can feel really overwhelming.
Plus, these things aren't always just empty threats. Even if they're not literally going to murder you, they can still try to ruin your life by contacting friends/employers, trying to find something incriminating from your past, etc. It's hard to imagine that that kind of shit wouldn't be stressful.
And yes, if you're an "enemy" of g*mers or have been labelled an "SJW" you can absolutely get this level of harassment. There are whole fucking sites dedicated to this kind of shit. I won't name them, but they're out there.
