Was reading this post and was absolutely terrified. It's gonna be bad.
Take away is that current lock downs are basically useless against the new strain as it has mutated enough to be more transmissible thru/around mask. Vaccines are still likely to work, and its not more deadly (seems like), but just going to blow thru our preventive measures like nothing.
Reposting because the first post didn't get enough traction and I need people to commiserate with me. Pulled out the money shot image, because I know libs don't read .
It didn't have to be like this.
None of this had to happen.
This could have been stopped in 1-2 months.
But no, liberalism had to condemn us to the situation we find ourselves in.
Imagine that all countries had required everyone who's not a nurse or a firefighter to stay at home for a few weeks at the beginning of this instead of whining about the economy. This could have been over by now.
But then that money would have been distributed equally instead of lining the pockets of the oligarchs. We can't have that.
Imagine that all countries had required everyone who’s not a nurse or a firefighter to stay at home for a few weeks
Or to just not breathe the same indoor air as other people. With ventilation and cloth masks and distancing- and air filters if you want to be extra safe- you can have multiple people exist in a public place without much risk.
I’m confident that the Biden administration will exercise more centralized control and we’ll have some real experts managing the distribution where it’s been largely a political exercise up until now…..
I'm not so confident.
The Lord Jesus could be managing the distribution of PPE, and we still wouldn't be much better off, all because our dumbass federated system where every state, county, town, and hamlet is able to do their own thing. Along with a population that doesn't care and feels not being able to sit down at a restaurant is literal slavery.
I just read that Montanas new governor is gonna lift restrictions, says he wants to move away from public mandate to “personal responsibility”. :agony-consuming:
But I do think that best-case scenario, we’re going to be in this until the end of 2021 maybe slightly into 2022.
Note that the much less fussy Astra Zeneca isn’t expected to be approved until April.
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I work on software related to Covid and folks at the public health organization I am working alongside do not expect 2021 to look any different to 2020. It’s going to be really interesting seeing liberals justify nothing changing after months of a Biden admin with control of Congress
Honestly, what could possibly be different in 2021? Even with Biden being a "competent leader", There is no talk of doing anything of the scale required
Even in exemplar blue state New York, you have to fill out a 51 question form to get a fucking vaccine.
The U.K. has utterly fucked up handling covid too, but at least the vaccination process for my elderly parents was them getting an unprompted phone call and being asked “when can you come in to be vaccinated next week?”.
you see, the Wall Street Journal & Wash Post won't be complaining about it so that makes it all good dontchaknow
Ya it's bleak. Virus mutations that are more contagious vs more deadly means much more virus spread. Viruses with high lethality kill people before they can spread the virus. I keep hearing Covid will eventually be like the common cold or flu, but who the hell knows when that will be. Sick of living like this.
I was terrified now, and now I will be even more terrified. Argentina is experiencing a rebound as we speak, many hospitales are overwhelmed, 45k have died so far. The situation is very delicate, and so is my mental health. I cannot go through another year of this, lockdown, the constant fear of infecting myself and then infecting my mother, being jobless, with 27 years in this cursed planet and literally no future. It's going to cause a lot of damage.
Oh god, we never expected people to get horny for corona, we might have to do something about the pandemic now
Its gonna get bad. Like the people spreading it aren't idiots from the info I'm seeing. There's been a few where its like, what the fuck are you doing, but for most they're being stupid to a reasonable extent. Like no ones staying locked down completely for a year cause thats impossible. But like, I'm seeing lots of people doing completely reasonable activities-shit you gotta do to just stay sane-that are causing outbreaks.
My family had stopped doing our Sunday family dinners (cousins, aunts, uncles, kids -- like probably 10-15 at a time depending on who comes) for a while. But now they want to start again, because everyone hates not seeing each other. I don't wanna say it to them, but it probably would have made more sense to have been doing it and stop then go back and start again when things are getting so much worse. But I understand that they just miss seeing each other.
Yeah they’ve done Zoom calls. But that’s apparently not enough. Gonna try talking them out of it but there’s only so much I can do :(
Damn; my friends and I have all gone digital, but we're all zoomers, so that was kinda the norm for us anyway
Folks I know that travelled for the holidays were super cautious ahead of going to see family (isolating upon arrival etc), but upon returning haven’t isolated or quarantined at all. Back to normal covid precautions immediately. Based on that, the new variant circulating and that I’m prone to overthinking, I fear it’s gonna get really messy from next week onwards I think, 2 weeks after the end of holiday travel.
Sorry to ruin everyone's doomerpill moment. Be very wary of data coming from non peer reviewed research.
This could be true. But it might not. It seems like unnecessary stress on our poor comrades here.
Some of the data they are talking about is just real world observations. Ireland has had very few cases few cases up until very recently, when suddenly case numbers exploded. Same with several locations in the US that have direct flights to Europe. In either case, we'll find out in the next couple of weeks / months.
Yea you just have to look at the UK and Ireland to see that anywhere the new strain takes hold can expect to see things go to shit very quickly. Bascially the only chance to limit it is a full lockdown, every workplace except emergency services closed. Capitalist countries won't do this so expect far worse than you've seen so far.
you gonna believe your own lying eyes and every moment of your life under capitalism, or Science?
That's not necessarily a new deadly strain. In 2021, we just have better tools to study and nap the mutuations of Covid because we're past the initial panic.
Every region on Earth "had few cases up until recently, when suddenly the case numbers exploded". That's how outbreaks work!
What's happened is that regions that contained the early outbreak are suffering from fatigue, and without a vaccine or a past outbreak, loosening restrictions will inevitably lead to a spike. That's the issue with lockdowns - you have to do them forever.
The end result is the same, its gonna/is getting worse. But it would be weird, in my mind as a layman, if the virus didn't mutate to be more infectious. Lock downs are 1/3rd (at least/most? they aren't enough, is what i'm saying) of a proper pandemic response, for sure
The only way it could "get worse" in the US at least is if we stopped making people wear masks. We've basically had uncontrolled spread in every region of the country now. We're almost certainly going to reach "herd immunity" long before the vaccines get distributed to everyone. There's not really any "preventative measures" to blow through anyway, so pretty much don't let the news get you in a tizzy.
Oddly enough, in the UK (not sure about Ireland), I read that major supermarket chains didn't even start requiring masks until like 2 weeks ago lol.
A full-blown Ireland event is driven by both the more virulent UK-strain AND a deterioration in social distancing behaviors… Irish health authorities estimate that their starting point for Covid Re was something between 1.1 and 1.3 (meaning that, on average, one person infected with the SARS-CoV-2 virus would pass it along to 1.1 – 1.3 new people). They blame deteriorating masking/social distancing for the majority of their “event” (say, a 0.9 – 1.1 increase in the Re number), and the UK-variant for the balance (say, a 0.5 – 0.7 increase in Re)…Notably, the UK-variant is, relatively speaking, significantly more infectious than the baseline virus for “close contacts” (not face-to-face, up to 2 meters apart) rather than “direct contacts”, meaning that the UK-variant virus is particularly successful at bridging the air gap between strangers or short-duration contacts in an indoor space…. the UK-variant virus dramatically reduces the margin of error we have with mask wearing and social distancing outside of the home.
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This is basically what already happened in every region of the US outside of NYC. Eventually, people got tired of the restrictions, so they got sloppy and welp, the virus spread. The whole "NEW STRAIN" is just because we can actually study it now. There's likely several strains everywhere, no one noticed them before it was just "Covid"
It sure is nice I'll have a baby in the NICU for a month and it's even nicer that the only entrance is through the emergency lobby. Sleeping with a mask on in the hospital tonight... I'm sure we won't all three catch some wild mutated covid strain or anything
Friend of mine is like 6 months pregnant. Tough times, for sure. Solidarity and good luck.
I'm convinced this is deliberate. There's no fucking way this was fucked up this bad on accident. The ruling class allowed and continues to allow the virus to spread unhindered because it is killing the sick, the old, and the poor. It's weeding out the people that aren't top producers. It's intentional, deliberate genocide and nothing can convince otherwise anymore.
It was deliberate insofar as the effective methods of handling the virus, e.g. the methods that perhaps China and Vietnam imposed, all undercut their bottom line. Also the virus makes poverty that much more threatening, so the coercion to work in terrible conditions for low wages has become that much tighter around the average person's neck. win-win for the rulers in the short-term, probably bad for them long-term
Point I might be trying to express is it doesn't matter if mass death was the goal or not. The bourgeoisie following their unfettered material interests would have resulted in the same decisions even if they had humane intentions. They may have believed in an optimistic outcome for humanity down in their hearts somewhere, but the fun part is the purity of their souls doesn't matter. They are genocidal tyrants by virtue wielding mass amounts of private capital and the conclusions from that position.
They just don't care.
What you're seeing now is a return to how life was before the post-World War 2 welfare state. Rolling epidemics of disease, that killed the working class primarily due to lack of public infrastructure, were just a fact of life.
Winter comes? Welp, it's grandma's time to go, she got the Fever. Bugs are bad in the summer? Welp, some kids are gonna get malaria (which was widespread in the US until the 30s....). That's Capitalism!
Yeah, I agree. I don't know if this was on purpose, but they are clearly fine with it. After all, why try to fix something that you've made billions and billions of dollars because of
My state locked down the capital city after a single case was detected in the community, and it hasn't progressed further.
Pretty much everyone in on the same floor as the original infected traveller got the UK variant though, so highly infectious.
I did the same in February and my in-laws bought me a book on how to manage irrational anxiety.
Strong January 2020 vibes, for sure. Thanks for posting; I'm going to keep tabs on them going forward. Thinking I'm going to do a little prepping this weekend, get an air filter and get some dried/canned goods. Like what else do you do?
I too am becoming Stavro Halkias in the face of the coming plague world
Doesn’t matter if it gets around masks or not because people won’t fucking wear them anyway.
Ugh, I hope the vaccine rollout gets faster or something idk people really need it, but also I don’t think enough people are getting it like they should. Fucking hellworld
Ugh, I hope the vaccine rollout gets faster or something
In the EU it seems they're gonna approve AstraZeneca soon, idk if that will happen in the US... If that happens it's gonna speed things up.
